SuStel:
Your original subject line is “Sentence as object using ‘oH.”

Yes it is, but that's because the original sentence of the thread seemed to me as "a sentence as object using {'oH}"; not because I was trying to bend the rules, so as to create a sao with an {'oH}, instead of {'e'}.

Anyway, thanks for answering and clarifying this matter.

SuStel, reH choQaHmo' qatlho', 'ej tlho'wIj Daghaj.

qunnoq

On Aug 22, 2017 5:23 PM, "SuStel" <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:

Your original subject line is “Sentence as object using ‘oH.”

 

Your original sentence, without ‘e’, is not correct. In the A pro B’e’ construction, A and B are nouns or noun phrases, not sentences.

 

The proposed version with ‘e’ might be technically correct, but I have a hard time believing Klingons use verb-acting pronouns in sentence-as-object constructions. The final verb in an SAO should generally be something simple and unexceptional.

 

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From: mayqel qunenoS
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 9:27 AM
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Sentence as object using {'oH}

 

SuStel:

> Why are you twisting in knots trying to use a sentence as 

> object with a pronoun?

 

I'm not trying to use a sentence as object with a pronoun. I'm trying however to understand what is right and what is wrong.

 

The initial sentence of the thread, the {chabHommeylIj Sopta' vIghro'wIj 'oH vIt'e'}, was written by me, and I posted here because I was wondering (and still am), with regards to whether it is a valid/correct sentence.

 

The second sentence, the {chabHommeylIj Sopta' vIghro'wIj 'e' 'oH vIt'e'}, was written by Antony Appleyard and I asked because I was wondering (and still am), whether it is correct.

 

I'm not trying to create new rules, or extract new rules from the existing ones, but if I don't ask then I will never learn.

 

qunnoq

 

 

On Aug 22, 2017 3:54 PM, "SuStel" <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:

Why are you twisting in knots trying to use a sentence as object with a pronoun?

 

chabHommeylIj Sopbejta' vIghro'wIj

 

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From: mayqel qunenoS
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 8:00 AM
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Sentence as object using {'oH}

 

De'vID:

> What is the object of {'oH}?

 

I think it is the sentence which precedes it. I think it is the {chabHommeylIj Sopta' vIghro'wIj}.

 

Antony Appleyard:

> {chabHommeylIj Sopta' vIghro'wIj 'e' 'oH vIt'e'}

 

Is {chabHommeylIj Sopta' vIghro'wIj 'e' 'oH vIt'e'} correct ?

 

qunnoq

 


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