On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 14:14, mayqel qunen'oS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
The verb muv means "to join".

There's the Ca'Non sentence:

Qo'noS tuqmey muvchuqmoH qeylIS
kahless united the tribes of kronos

Which actually means "kahless caused the tribes of kronos to join each other".

Right, the tribes join *each other* (and not something unspecified). That is, it means something like {muvchuq tuqmey. 'e' qaSmoH qeylIS.}
 
And now let's come to the prefix trick.

qanob'eghmoH
I cause you to give yourself something (which isn't specified)

This is like {bInob'egh. 'e' vIqaSmoH}. The thing given isn't unspecified, because {-moH} indicates that the verb acts on the performer of the action. Your sentence (if it's even grammatical) means "I cause you to give yourself."

Also, I don't see how this is an application of the prefix trick. What's the version of the sentence where the indirect object has been made explicit? (For example, {taj qanob} means {SoHvaD taj vInob}. Is {qanob'eghmoH} supposed to mean *{SoHvaD vInob'eghmoH}?)
 
SanobchuqmoH
I cause you to give each other something (which isn't specified)

If Kahless had said to the tribes, {SamuvchuqmoH}, it would mean the tribes join *each other*. Similarly, {SanobchuqmoH} means "I cause you to give each other" (i.e., what you give isn't unspecified, it's each other). {Sunobchuq. 'e' vIqaSmoH.}

Again, how is your sentence an application of the prefix trick? What's the version with the indirect object made explicit? *{tlhIHvaD vInobchuqmoH}?
 
taj qanob'eghmoH
I cause you to give yourself a knife

taj SanobchuqmoH
I cause you to give each other a knife

In the above last two examples, seemingly/apparently the prefix trick rule isn't violated.

It doesn't appear to be violated because it isn't being applied.
 
So, seemingly/apparently we *can* use the prefix trick with {-'eghmoH} and {-chuqmoH}.

Right ?

I can see no evidence for this claim based on what you're written above.

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