SuStel:
> Or to look at it another way: at what point do
> you finish starting? Can you point to the
> moment that -DI' points to, when the starting
> is completed and something else happens?
I see.. Indeed I can't define a specific point at which I finish starting and something else happens. So, I understand that trying to combine the {-ta'} with the {-choH} is indeed weird.
however, since this came up let me ask you about this:
SuStel:
> Whether -ta' must refer to only the verb or can
> be applied to the -choH is not a settled issue
this "not settled issue" concerns only the {-ta'} and {-choH} (when they co-exist) at the same verb, or does it extend to all kinds of verb suffixes ?
qunnoH
ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
On 11/23/2016 10:44 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
jIH:
> jIHaDchoHta'DI'
SuStel:
> jIHaDchoHDI'I was trying to express "as soon as I had started studying", trying to give emphasis to the fact that "my starting" had been completed. But now I wonder: In the {jIHaDchoHta'DI'}, is it possible for the {-ta'} to refer to the {-choH}, or does it exclusively refer to the verb ?
Saying jIHaDchoHDI' doesn't mean the starting of your studying is incomplete. It does mean that studying has started. Although it isn't described this way in TKD, -choH is a kind of aspect just like -pu', -taH, and the other type 7s are. Aspect describes how an action behaves over time. -choH describes the action as suddenly starting, then continuing from that point. Combining -choH and -DI' is enough to say "as soon as this starting point arrives."
Whether -ta' must refer to only the verb or can be applied to the -choH is not a settled issue, but I don't think you need to resolve it to say what you're trying to say. You're interested in a starting point, not a stopping point. -ta' describes a stopping point; -choH describes a starting point.
Or to look at it another way: at what point do you finish starting? Can you point to the moment that -DI' points to, when the starting is completed and something else happens?
-- SuStel http://trimboli.name
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