On 9/18/2020 8:58 AM, mayqel qunen'oS wrote:
qaStaHvIS QIn tlheghvam, jIHvaD qay'pu' wa': chay' {quv
luHutlh'eghmoHpu' romuluSngan} mu'tlhegh yajnISlu'. 'op rep ret, vay'
Daj vIQubpu'. 'ej chaq jIHvaD mu'tlheghvam qay' QIjlaHchu' vay'vam.
pelaD.

HoH
kill

Yes.


HoH'egh
commit suicide
(kill oneself)

Yup.


jIHoH'eghmoH
I cause someone unspecified to commit suicide
(I cause someone unspecified to kill himself)

Ummm... maybe? It's all well to suggest that suffixes in a -moH verb might apply to entities other than the ones they're supposed to according to the rules of TKD, but in this word there's not even a hint that there's someone else involved. I don't think you can reliably say that this word means what you say it means, let alone go on to base a linguistic formula on it.


luHoH'eghmoH
they cause him/her to commit suicide
(they cause him/her to kill himself/herself)

This, at least, has the benefit of actually referencing multiple parties.


vaj..

quv luHutlh'eghmoHpu' romuluSngan
the romulans cause the honor to lack itself

chaq QIjlaw'ghachvam 'oH mu'tlhegh wa'DIch QIjchu'ghach'e'.

Eh. I'm not convinced. I'd rather reword than trust to this. Instead of quv luHutlh'eghmoHpu' romuluSngan, I'd say quvHa''eghmoHpu' romuluSnganpu' The Romulans dishonored themselves.

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