On 2/11/2017 8:34 AM, Aurélie Demonchaux wrote:
Indeed the lack of tense can be a bit confusing sometimes and it's taking me a bit of time getting used to.
I'm still working to figure out also how it works with the verb suffixes.
For example, in the 4 possible sentences below, do I get the exact nuances right?
jIvutpu’ ’e’ vIparHa’- I like that I cooked (at some point in the past)- I like that I have cooked (just now)- I like finishing to cook (maybe implying that this is when I can finally eat ;)
"At some point in the past" implies past tense, which we know Klingon doesn't have. Instead, the -pu' tells us that "I cook" is a completed action. In English we can't separate tense and aspect, so the distinction is difficult for English-speakers to grasp.
jIvutpu'
I cooked; I have cooked; I will have cooked
I perform, performed, or will perform an act of cooking, and I now, did, or will complete that act.The single word in no way tells you whether the action is past, present, or future. It means all of them and none of them at the same time, the same way that blue means sky-blue and navy-blue and TARDIS-blue all at the same time.
wa'Hu' jIvutpu'
yesterday I cooked; yesterday I had cookedDaH jIvutpu'
right now I have cookedwa'leS jIvutpu'
tomorrow I will have cookedContexts like these are required to determine when the cooking happened.
If you don't use an aspect suffix, you are explicitly talking about an action that is not completed (or continuous) in the moment your are describing.
jIvut
I cook; It's true that I cook thingsThis also does not specify when an action happened, which requires context:
wa'Hu' jIvut
I cooked yesterday; it's true that I engaged in cooking yesterdayDaH jIvut
I cook now; at other times I may not have cooked, but it's true that I cook nowwa'leS jIvut
I will cook tomorrow; tomorrow I'll do some cookingYou can make a similar comparison with the continuous suffixes.
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