I agree with your analysis loghaD.

I have to admit, that I didn't quite like it either, the original sentence {wa'maH tup qaSpa' jajlo', vIghro' vIlegh}.

Which of course raises the question "if I didn't like it, then why did I write it ?".

It is just that I couldn't find another way to express the intented meaning.

Anyway, seemingly/apparently, we can't adequately express these kinds of phrases in klingon.

Which is kind of strange, since "ten minutes before dawn" is a very simple thing to say.

~ nI'ghma

On Dec 21, 2017 12:26, "Felix Malmenbeck" <felixm@kth.se> wrote:
I'm afraid that doesn't make much sense to me; I read it assomething like "Before dawn happened at ten minutes, I saw a cat."

Personally, I'm a fan of expressions such as «jajlo' wa'maH tup ret» ("the ten minutes ago f dawn"), but I believe such constructs are quite controversial with the community, with many arguing that ret/pIq, Hu'/leS, ben/nem and the like should always be measured with respect to (the speaker's) present.

You could say «qaStaHvIS jajlo' nungbogh tup wa'maHDIch» ("during the 10th minute that precedes dawn"), but that's rather cumbersome.

//loghaD

> 21 dec. 2017 kl. 11:16 skrev mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com>:
>
> If we write:
>
> {wa'maH tup qaSpa' jajlo', vIghro' vIlegh}
>
> Would it be acceptable for "ten minutes before dawn I saw a cat" ?
>
> ~ nI'ghma
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