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On Saturday, August 16, 2025 at 09:41:47 AM PDT, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:
</div><div><br></div><div><div id="ydpfacf2f44yiv5281380994"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="ydpfacf2f44yiv5281380994gmail_quote ydpfacf2f44yiv5281380994gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="ydpfacf2f44yiv5281380994gmail_attr">>On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 3:27 AM James Landau via tlhIngan-Hol <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org</a>> wrote:</div><div dir="ltr" class="ydpfacf2f44yiv5281380994gmail_attr">>>jIltob'or (classic): This is "your robot" backwards, but does anyone get how this ties in with the concept of being a classic?</div><div>></div><div>>{tob} "test" and {'or} "pilot" = "test pilot"? There is a classic movie (starring Clark Gable) named "Test Pilot", but I can find no connection </div><div>>to anyone named "Jill".</div><div> </div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Hmmmmm . . .</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">>>roqlIpe' (civilian): "Apple core" backwards, but how do apple cores relate to civilian life?<br clear="none"></div><div>></div><div>>Probably a reference to "Apple Corps", the company established by The Beatles. One of their business ventures was "Apple Tailoring </div><div>>Civil and Theatrical" which made clothes for both theatrical productions and "civilians".</div><div id="ydpfacf2f44yiv5281380994yqtfd81182" class="ydpfacf2f44yiv5281380994yqt7867741471"><div><br></div><div> </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Apple Corps, as in Apple Records? Well, it looks as if you've found the answer!</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">>>Selrach (ladder): Obviously "Charles" backwards, but googling didn't find the connection. Does Marc Okrand know a Charles Ladder </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">>>(or Charles Latter)?<br>><br clear="none">>Maybe Charles Lederer, the film director? (Okrand does like his movie references. But there are so many "Charles".)<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br clear="none"></div></div></div><span class="ydpfacf2f44yiv5281380994gmail_signature_prefix">I've never even heard of Charles Lederer. I associate the surname Lederer with Richard Lederer, the guy who writes all those books about playing with the English language. But it is quite likely -- "Lederer" is close enough to "ladder" that it could work.</span></div><div id="ydpfacf2f44yiv5281380994yqtfd30138" class="ydpfacf2f44yiv5281380994yqt7867741471">
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