<html><head></head><body><div class="ydp5b9bcd8eyahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div></div><div id="ydp5b9bcd8eyahoo_quoted_3627796620" class="ydp5b9bcd8eyahoo_quoted"><div style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I was just thinking . . . if -Daq and other such noun suffixes can appear at the end of stative verbs that follow the nouns, aren't they really clitics instead of "noun suffixes"?</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">>Remember that {-Daq} et al. exhibit sine other surprising behaviors (at least to this English speaker). It appears on cardinal numbers, at least in </div><div dir="ltr">>proper names:<br></div><div dir="ltr">></div><div dir="ltr">> nImbuS wejDaq 'ejDo' 'entepray' ngeHlu'pu'<br></div><div dir="ltr">> The starship Enterprise has been dispatched to Nimbus III [ST5]<br></div><div dir="ltr">></div><div dir="ltr">> Qo'noS wa'Daq baHta' ['entepray']<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Enterprise fired on Kronos One... [ST6]<br></div><div dir="ltr">></div><div dir="ltr">>Also, "If a Type 5 noun suffix is used ? it follows the verb, which, when used to modify the noun in this way, can have no other suffix except the </div><div dir="ltr">>rover {-qu'} emphatic. The Type 5 noun suffix follows {-qu'} ... {veng tInqu'Daq} ?in the very big city" [TKD p.50]. In other words, {-Daq} attaches </div><div dir="ltr">>to the quality modifying a noun, not the noun itself. More examples:<br></div><div dir="ltr">></div><div dir="ltr">> veng tInDaq<br></div><div dir="ltr">> in the big city [TKD]<br></div><div dir="ltr">></div><div dir="ltr">> wa' Dol nIvDaq matay'DI' maQap<br></div><div dir="ltr">> We succeed together in a greater whole. [TKW]<br></div><div dir="ltr">></div><div dir="ltr">> batlh maHeghbej 'ej yo' qIjDaq vavpu'ma' DImuv<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Then we die with honor and join our fathers in the Black Fleet... [Anthem]<br></div><div dir="ltr">></div><div dir="ltr">>If it helps, think of {qep?a? wejDIch} as the proper, official name of the qep?a? - i.e. the Third [KLI] Conference ? a sort of inseparable phrase.<br></div><div dir="ltr">></div><div dir="ltr">>--<br></div><div dir="ltr">>Voragh<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div></div>
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