<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><div>I’ve always been amused by the verbs for fingers and toes, with the actual fingers and toes being the verb with {-wI’} added. It’s weird, because the verb doesn’t mean “do what the thumb does” such that the thumb is the thing doing what the thumb does. {rIl} means “use the thumb”, and the thing which uses the thumb, deserving the title of “thumb user” isn’t the thumb. It’s the person the thumb is attached to.</div><div><br></div><div>I haven’t noticed any other use of {-wI’} comparable to this one.</div><div><br></div><div>A {jabwI’} serves food. {jab jabwI’}. A thumb doesn’t use a thumb. {not rIl'egh rIlwI’}.</div><div><br></div><div>I mean, maybe the cow in Restaurant at the End of the Universe could be described as {jab’egh jabwI’}, but that would be an uncommon circumstance.</div><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div>
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Dec 14, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Steven Boozer via tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div>Klingon word: rIl<br>Part of speech: verb<br>Definition: use the thumb<br>Source: HQ:v10n2p9<br>_______________________________________________<br><br>nujDajDaq rIl'egh ghu <br>the baby sucks its thumb (HQ 10.2:8-9) <br>("at his/her mouth, the baby uses at him/herself his/her thumb")<br><br>Most commonly used in reference to a child using a thumb. Cf. the synonym {Sen} "use the thumb" which is most commonly used in reference to an adult using a thumb. (HQ 10.2)<br><br>(HQ 10.2:7-8): The two sets of words relating to thumb are pretty much interchangeable, though small children usually use {rIl} and {rIlwI'} rather than {Sen} and {SenwI'}. Similarly, adults speaking to or about children tend to use {rIl} and {rIlwI'}. Both words are used together in an idiomatic expression meaning everybody, everyone: {SenwI'Du' rIlwI'Du' je}, literally "thumbs and thumbs". This expression is often heard without the plural suffixes: {SenwI' rIlwI' je}. <br><br>SEE:<br>rIlwI' <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>thumb (n)<br><br>SEE ALSO:<br>Sen <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>use the thumb (v)<br>SenwI' <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>thumb (n) <br><br>Heng <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>finger holes in a musical instrument (v)<br>'uy <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>press down (v)<br><br>N.B. Do not confuse with the verb {rIl} "play (a wind instrument)", often with the noun {gheb} "horn (musical instrument)" -- {gheb rIl} !<br><br>--<br>Voragh, Ca'Non Master of the Klingons<br> Please contribute relevant vocabulary from recent qep’a’mey <br> or qepHommey. I’ve fallen woefully behind in updating my files.<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>tlhIngan-Hol mailing list<br>tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org<br>http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org<br></div></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>