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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">See also the note on expressing "be blonde" as *SuD 'ej wov* at <a href="http://www.qephom.de/book/qepHom2021_p_17.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.qephom.de/book/qepHom2021_p_17.jpg</a></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div>>Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2023 15:35:02 +0000<br></div><div id="ydp3298c336yahoo_quoted_7665934459" class="ydp3298c336yahoo_quoted"><div style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;"><div><div dir="ltr">>From: Steven Boozer <<a href="mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sboozer@uchicago.edu</a>><br></div><div>>Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: SuD></div><div>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, February 22, 2023<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">>Klingon word: SuD<br></div><div dir="ltr">>Part of speech: verb<br></div><div dir="ltr">>Definition: be green, be blue, be yellow<br></div><div dir="ltr">>_______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">>SuD 'ej wov <br></div><div dir="ltr">>(it) is {SuD} and light (KGT; a way to refer to a yellowish tinge)<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">>SuD 'ach wov <br></div><div dir="ltr">>[(it) is] {SuD} but light (KGT; is also heard)<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">>SuD Dargh 'ej wov <br></div><div dir="ltr">>The tea is {SuD} and light. (KGT)<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">>SuDbogh Dargh 'ej wovbogh <br></div><div dir="ltr">>The tea that is {SuD} and light. (KGT)<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">>(KGT 81-82): Compared to Federation Standard, Klingon terminology associated with colors is rather limited. First of all, there is >no noun meaning color. There is, however, a verb, {nguv}, which means something like "be dyed, stained, tinted", though it is >seldom used except in the phrase {chay' nguv} ("How is [it] tinted?") or when suffixed with {-moH} ("cause") in the form {nguvmoH} >("dye, tint, stain"; that is, "cause to be dyed," etc.)<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">>(KGT 82): Various devices are employed when it is necessary to talk about colors more precisely. The suffix {-qu'} is useful as in >{Doqqu'} (red) and {SuDqu'} (green). {wov} and {Hurgh} may also modify colors as in {SuD 'ej wov} (yellow) or objects may be >compared to something else that typically has a particular color as in {Doq 'ej beqpuj rur} "(it) is {Doq} and resembles {beqpuj}" (an >orange mineral). [...] The fact that neither {SuD} nor {Doq} includes what is called violet or purple in Federation Standard may be >related to Klingon physiology--that is, exactly how the Klingon eye processes different wavelengths of light. <br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">>(startrek.klingon 2/1998): "If the context is clear (such as contrasting a brown thing with a thing that cannot be described as {Doq}, >such as something that's {SuD} "blue, green, yellow"), {Doq} alone is good enough. Thus, if there are two drinking cups, one brown >and one blue, one might say: {HIvje' Doq qaneH} "I want the {Doq} cup" [sic! for {vIneH}]. Only the brown cup could be described >as {Doq}; the blue cup is definitely not {Doq} since it is {SuD}.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">>(SuStel, 10/30/2009): Klingon has four color terms: {qIj} "be black", {SuD} "be blue, green, yellow", {chIS} "be white", and {Doq} "be >red, orange". According to the theory about color terms, yellow is always a color associated with warm colors, and blue and green >are always associated with cool colors. The Klingon verb {SuD} violates the hierarchy, and Okrand has confirmed that he did this >on purpose. It is a linguistic joke.<br></div><div dir="ltr"> >[see <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_term " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_term </a>])<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">>(IMO, HolQeD 8.3): There is also an idiomatic phrase which conveys the idea of jealousy: {SuD veqlargh mInDu'}. Literally, this >means "Fek'lhr's eyes are yellow/green", but it is used to express the idea that somebody is jealous. It would be used in an >exchange such as: <br></div><div dir="ltr">> A: loSmaH romulusngan SuvwI'pu' HoHta' qeng.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> B: SuD veqlargh mInDu'.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> A: Kang killed 40 Romulan warriors.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> B: Somebody is jealous!<br></div><div dir="ltr">>Speaker "B" is saying that speaker "A" is jealous of Kang.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">>(SuStel, 9/03/2019): My memory of the thing Okrand did intentionally was that according to Berlin-Kay, yellow tends to either have >its own word, or it is grouped with red and orange. The Klingon system groups it with blue and green, which makes sense if you >look at a spectrum and see that it is arbitrary whether it is grouped with red/orange or green/blue, but languages generally tend to >group it with red/orange. There is no technical reason why human languages group yellow with red and orange. They just do.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">>(Brent Kesler, 9/04/2019): The question is where languages draw borders between colors. The HolQeD article I dimly remember >argued that grouping yellow with green/blue is so odd it's almost alien and speculated that MO knew about the Berlin-Kay >hierarchy, and had it mind when he made up the word {SuD} in 1984.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">>DloraH once had a web page showing the gradations between {Doq} and {SuD} at <a href="https://65.13.120.12/tlhIngan/color.jpg " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://65.13.120.12/tlhIngan/color.jpg </a>but it's no >longer online. Has he moved it to another platform? <br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">>SEE:<br></div><div dir="ltr">>SuD gamble, take a chance, take a risk (v)<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">>(PK): {SuD} also means "take a risk", which may explain the joke:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> A: Doq'a' SuvwI'pu'?<br></div><div dir="ltr">> B: ghobe', SuD!<br></div><div dir="ltr">> A: Are warriors red?<br></div><div dir="ltr">> B: No, they are green! <br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">>SEE ALSO:<br></div><div dir="ltr">>Doq be red/orange (v)<br></div><div dir="ltr">>nIl be grassy/verdant (v)<br></div></div>
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