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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Here’s Okrand’s untranslated Facebook post to Andre (2/11/2014):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> [bama/mIyanma] Hol mu'mey cha'be'. mI'mey neH cha'.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Okrand later re-thought his transcription for Myanmar at qepHom 2016:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> For *France*, pronounced in French, the "n" also indicates<br>
nasalization - it's not pronounced as an individual sound - so,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> for Klingon, I just skipped it: {vIraS} (not {vIranIs} or something<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> like that). I followed the same line of thinking for {mIyama}<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> (rather than {mIyanma}).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">So both {bama Hol} and {mIyama Hol} are correct, assuming they both refer to the same language. OTOH one might be a simplified official language used nation-wide
vs. an “authentic” language/dialect used regionally. Does anyone know?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">As for the country and people – why can’t they be referred to by more than one name? E.g. Russian/Soviet, American/U.S./Yank(ee), English/British/Brits, Anglo-Saxons,
Castillian/Spanish, etc. There are historical, political, bureaucratic, ethnic, and religious reasons for preferring one over the other, but most outsiders don’t know, or even care, about those reasons. (Especially imaginary aliens light years away in the
Beta Quadrant over three centuries from now.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Voragh
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> De'vID via tlhIngan-Hol<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 3:51 PM Steven Boozer via tlhIngan-Hol <<a href="mailto:tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org">tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks for reminding me. There’s also {bama} (Burma) and {barat} (India).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I thought {mIyama} was the country and {bama Hol} was the name of the language. I don't think {bama} by itself is meaningful.<o:p></o:p></p>
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