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<div id="ydpf497b4a8yahoo_quoted_9336261977" class="ydpf497b4a8yahoo_quoted" dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div>>On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 11:58:23 PM PST, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:
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<div dir="ltr" class="ydpf497b4a8yiv4972139870gmail_attr" data-setdir="false">>>On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 3:47 AM James Landau via tlhIngan-Hol <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><div><div id="ydpf497b4a8yiv4972139870"><div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div class="ydpf497b4a8yiv4972139870gmail_quote"><div id="ydpf497b4a8yiv4972139870yqtfd57996" class="ydpf497b4a8yiv4972139870yqt8236952101"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="ydpf497b4a8yiv4972139870gmail_quote"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div dir="ltr">>>jva (confused prisoner) -- Jean Valjean?</div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div>><br clear="none"></div><div>>I've long suspected that Jean Valjean was an element in the origin of {jav} "six" to begin with. My guess is that when Dr. Okrand was >trying to come up with a word for "six", the TV show "The Prisoner" came to mind, but he couldn't turn that directly into a Klingon >word. But "prisoner" brought up the association with Jean Valjean (JV), hence {jav}. The later slang usage of {jav} "prisoner" >might've been a glimpse into this creation process.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Hey, you're probably right! I've known the word *jav* for "six" for many years, and I've known that Number Six was from The Prisoner. In fact, there's even a palindrome (from a Craig Hansen book, I believe) that reads "A six is a six is a six is a . . .", and shows a prisoner writing the number 666666666 all over his prison walls. But it wasn't until I saw *jva* that I made the connection with Jean Valjean. Who, of course, is prisoner number two four SIX oh one.<br></div></div><div id="ydpf497b4a8yiv4972139870yqtfd80684" class="ydpf497b4a8yiv4972139870yqt8236952101">
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