<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">To my ear, {tu’lu’} is making a statement, “There are many ships.” You are adding to that statement that the ships are on Kronos.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">{bIHtaH} is focused on where the ships are.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Both say the same thing. It’s just that the {bIHtaH} sentence structure is introduced to us in TKD as a way of saying where things are, while {tu’lu’} is introduced to us as a way of saying that something exists. Since the many ships exist, and they have a location, this particular sentence is conveying meaning that is an overlap between these two kinds of expressions.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">While you are at it, consider:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Qo’noSDaq law’ Duj.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This is yet another sentence saying the same thing, but again, there’s a difference in flavor. All three versions give you the same information. On Kronos, ships are many. On Kronos there are many ships/one discovers many ships. Many ships are on Kronos.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">nuqDaq bIH Duj law’? </div><div class="">Qo’noSDaq bIHtaH Duj law’.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Duj vISuqnIS. </div><div class="">Qo’noSDaq Duj law’ tu’lu’.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Qo’noSDaq puS’a’ Duj? </div><div class="">gobe’. Qo’noSDaq law’ Duj.</div><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 30, 2022, at 8:06 AM, D qunen'oS <<a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" class="">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Qo'noSDaq Duj law' tu'lu'</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Qo'noSDaq bIHtaH Duj law''e'</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Don't both sentences mean the same? The way I understand them, they both mean "at kronos there are many ships".</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So, when should someone use {tu'lu'} and when should he use the pronoun with {-taH} variation?<br class=""><br class=""></div>--<br class="">Dana'an<br class=""><a href="https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/" class="">https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/</a><br class="">Ζεὺς ἦν, Ζεὺς ἐστίν, Ζεὺς ἔσσεται· ὦ μεγάλε Ζεῦ</div>
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