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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/11/2022 7:38 AM, Lieven L. Litaer
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:0e562e53-4192-d9a4-0961-d8c0b4c5184e@gmx.de">Hello dear
friends,
<br>
<br>
I'm expanding this topic from a discussion on Facebook. I'm not
claiming
<br>
that I'm right with this, but just want to hear your opinion or
<br>
clarification on this.
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<br>
Basis: Okrand sometimes gives words he labels as "used
idiomatically",
<br>
such as {Soj}. He also sometimes has words he calls "slang".
<br>
<br>
The point:
<br>
Someone said that in the context of Klingon, "single words used
<br>
idiomatically" would be what is called "slang".
<br>
<br>
I think that is not the case, but I might be wrong, maybe I
confuse
<br>
something.
<br>
<br>
My opinion is based on this:
<br>
After all, why would KGT have two separate chapters for this? On
page
<br>
21, it talks about "slang and idiomatic usages", so clearly makes
a
<br>
difference: "slang" AND "idiomatic usage".
<br>
<br>
From my knowledge, and what KGT also says, is that slang refers to
<br>
terms used in a special way (think of English "bucks" or
"greenbacks"
<br>
for "dollar note") while idoms are phrases or words with an
additionaly
<br>
meaning (like "raining cats and dogs"). Also, slang is [mostly]
used by
<br>
younger people in a colloquial way while idioms are set parts of
the
<br>
language and both young and old people use it, and can also be
used in
<br>
written language, which one would avoid with slang terms. [KGT
136, 142]
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<br>
Is there a clear answer on this?
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<p>You are correct. A word used idiomatically is simply one that is
used with a meaning slightly different than its literal meaning,
but which can be used in any setting or register. Slang is an
expression that is only used informally or among certain cohorts
and is considered incorrect outside of its appropriate setting.
The Klingon word <b>Soj</b> meaning <i>subject</i> is idiomatic
but not slang because it can be used in any register.</p>
<p>There is some overlap between the two, in that slang will often
be idiomatic.<br>
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