<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">I’d like to help, but I’m not sure I understand the specific meaning of your English description of the alien so that I can move from the framework of the quirks of English color descriptions and the quirks of Klingon color descriptions.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In particular, are you describing an alien who is one color that could be classified as gray or as dark blue, or are you describing an alien who has different features, some of which are grey and others of which are dark blue?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If you are describing one color that could be called gray or dark blue, in Klingon, you’d probably choose black or blue as the base color, perhaps modified, and then compare the color to that of an object that has something close to the color you are seeking to convey to the mind of your listener/reader.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If you are describing an alien that has gray bits and dark blue bits, you’d be better off describing the colors and the bits than trying to glom them both together describing the whole alien. English lets you get away with using its wider palette of color words applied to a single entity than Klingon, which requires work just to describe one of the colors.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 2, 2022, at 8:43 AM, D qunen'oS <<a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" class="">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">I want to say "that alien is dark blue and he's gray too".<div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">According to http:<a href="http://klingonska.org/ref/color.html" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">klingonska.org/ref/color.html</a></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">dark blue: {SuD 'ej Hurgh} or {SuD 'ach Hurgh}</div><div dir="auto" class="">gray: {qIj 'ej wov} or {qIj 'ach wov}</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Now, my problem isn't to discuss colors in klingon (a subject which makes my stomach turn). The thing I'm wondering which is the subject of this post, is this:</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="auto" class="">"That alien is dark blue and he's gray too".</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">When I'll write the klingon constructions which we need to use to expess "gray", do I write the {je} "too" once or twice?</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">SuD 'ej Hurgh nov, 'ej qIj 'ej wov je</div><div dir="auto" class="">SuD 'ej Hurgh nov, 'ej qIj je 'ej wov je</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Which of the two is the grammatically correct choice?</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div></div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" class="">-- <br class="">Dana'an<br class=""><a href="https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/" class="">https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/</a><br class="">Ζεὺς ἦν, Ζεὺς ἐστίν, Ζεὺς ἔσσεται· ὦ μεγάλε Ζεῦ</div></div>
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