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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">That’s my source:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> HoS lI' Dalo'Ha'chu'
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> You are a total waste of good energy! (PK)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I understood it in the sense of “wasting your time” or “wasted effort” or “a waste of skin” for which it does mean “misuse” – albeit a stronger form. You’re
right that {lo’Ha’chu’} might be a better gloss in my notes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Voragh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>De'vID<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 1, 2022 7:03 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">On Tue, 31 May 2022 at 16:43, Steven Boozer <<a href="mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu" target="_blank">sboozer@uchicago.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">SEE:<br>
lo' use, worth, mode (n)<br>
lo' use, make use of (v)<br>
lo'Ha' waste (v)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">These seem to include definitions which are not "canon". The noun {lo'} is defined in the Addendum to TKD as "use". The "mode" definition comes from a message to this mailing list on 2018-02-17: <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.kli.org/pipermail/tlhingan-hol-kli.org/2018-February/007388.html__;!!BpyFHLRN4TMTrA!7oAD1t1DVvXUKZzTdzUyn9g-rucIYfx2paVPzcdbfHMcAyoX2Xat8YdgYnt3_77OJrbAk82Wc2yjaH8vNubjYuZN8Zo$" target="_blank">http://lists.kli.org/pipermail/tlhingan-hol-kli.org/2018-February/007388.html</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">But where is "worth" from? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">I don't think {lo'Ha'} means "waste" but rather "misuse". {HoS lI' Dalo'Ha'chu'} only means "You are a total waste of good energy" because of the suffix {-chu'}. A more literal translation would be "you perfectly
misuse useful energy".<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">vIlo'laHbe'<br>
They are useless to me.<br>
I cannot use them. TKD<br>
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leghlaHchu'be'chugh mIn lo'laHbe' taj jej<br>
A sharp knife is nothing without a sharp eye. TKW<br>
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lo'laHbe'; chetvI' chIm rur<br>
worthless as an empty torpedo tube KGT<o:p></o:p></p>
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