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<div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;">Dana'an:</div><blockquote style="border-left: 3px solid rgb(200, 200, 200); border-top-color: rgb(200, 200, 200); border-right-color: rgb(200, 200, 200); border-bottom-color: rgb(200, 200, 200); padding-left: 10px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);"><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif;display:inline !important">Could this new sentence mean too "the teachers cause someone unspecified to understand the book"?</span><br></div></blockquote><div style=""><span style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);"></span><span style="display: inline !important;"><br></span></div><div style=""><span style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">This is possible.</span></div><div style=""><span style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);"><br></span></div><div style=""><span style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">It brought to my mind an interesting case of this: <b>tuQmoH</b> is used to mean "put on (clothes)".</span></div><div style=""><span style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);"><br></span></div><div style=""><span style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);"><b>DaSmey vItuQ. </b><i>I wear boots.</i></span></div><div style=""><span style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);"><i><br></i></span></div><div style=""><font color="#222222" face="arial"><b>jIHvaD DaSmey vItuQmoH. </b><i>I make myself wear boots.</i></font></div><div style=""><font color="#222222" face="arial"><i><br></i></font></div><div style=""><font color="#222222" face="arial"><b>DaSmey vItuQmoH. </b><i>I put on boots.</i></font></div><div style=""><font color="#222222" face="arial"><i><br></i></font></div><div style=""><font color="#222222" face="arial">I find myself quite hard to parse the third sentence. Without knowing that this is how the word is used, I'd have said <b>DaSmey vItuQchoH</b>. For some reason I feel that the person who is made to wear boots should be someone different than the subject of the sentence, but this sentence proves that it isn't the case.</font></div><div style=""><font color="#222222" face="arial"><br></font></div><div style=""><font color="#222222" face="arial">Iikka "fergusq" Hauhio</font></div><div class="protonmail_quote">
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On Thursday, May 19th, 2022 at 17.57, D qunen'oS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br>
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<div dir="auto">SuStel:<div dir="auto">> These two sentences mean the same</div><div dir="auto">> thing, but you would generally see it</div><div dir="auto">> expressed as the latter.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Ok, I understand this, thanks. But there's something else I'm wondering too.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Suppose I take the sentence {puqvaD paq luyajmoH ghojmoHwI'} and rewrite it omitting the {puqvaD}:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">paq luyajmoH ghojmoHwI'<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Could this new sentence mean too "the teachers cause someone unspecified to understand the book"?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Or is that the only thing it can mean is "the teachers cause the book to understand" as if the book was alive or something?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">-- <br>Dana'an<br><a target="_blank" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/">https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/</a><br>Ζεὺς ἦν, Ζεὺς ἐστίν, Ζεὺς ἔσσεται· ὦ μεγάλε Ζεῦ</div></div></div>
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