<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Since there is no grammatical way to differentiate between the word {latlh} and someone whose parents decided to name them that, I’d probably presume the more common word than the name for which we have no evidence anyone is called. Sufficient context, or a more explicitly worded expression might make the exception more obvious.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This isn’t really a language issue. I’m sure that in most, if not all languages, you’d have the same issue.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We’ve been through this as a community. One of our former Beginner Grammarians took on the name {pagh}. He expanded our perspective of potential meanings for all sentences describing nobody, or the actions no one committed.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And yet, the language survived.</div><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 11, 2022, at 7:51 AM, mayqel qunen'oS <<a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" class="">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">There's a chancellor who goes by the names of ghawran, torgh, valQIS, and several other names as well.<div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">I want to say "they call the chancellor as ghawran, torgh, valQIS, and by several other names".</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">So I write:</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">QangvaD ghawran, torgh, valQIS, latlhmey je luponglu'</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Or perhaps:</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">QangvaD ghawran, torgh, valQIS, latlh pongmey je luponglu'</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Are the above two klingon sentences correct? Or do these sentences actually say that "they call the chancellor ghawran, torgh, valQIS, and they call him {latlhmey}/{latlh pongmey} as well"?</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Does the presence of the {latlhmey}/{latlh pongmey} in the "name slot" of the {XvaD Y ponglu'} construction necessarily mean that they are to be understood as actual names, instead of normal words?<br class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto" class="">--<br class="">Dana'an <br class=""><a href="https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/</a><br class="">Ζεὺς ἦν, Ζεὺς ἐστίν, Ζεὺς ἔσσεται· ὦ μεγάλε Ζεῦ</div></div></div></div></div>
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