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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">De’vID’s examples of {rav} both follow the noun: {Hung buv rav} “security classification minimum” and {nen rav} “growth/maturation minimum”.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I checked how the contrasting {‘aqroS} “top (interior); maximum” was used separately (not as part of a rav/’aqroS construction):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> 'aqroS qughDo: pIvlob Hut vI' vagh
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> jabbI'ID pup: Qapchu'meH 'aqroS chuq: cha' vI' chorgh loghqammey
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Here {‘aqroS} precedes the noun: {'aqroS qughDo} “maximum cruising-speed” and {'aqroS chuq} “maximum range”.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I wonder if this is a subconscious ordering – top/maximum precedes, bottom/minimum follows – or if this is in fact Okrand’s preferred pattern. Or, as usual,
am I over-thinking it? <g><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> tlhIngan-Hol
<b>On Behalf Of </b>nIqolay Q<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 12:33 AM De'vID <<a href="mailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com">de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">There are canon examples of {rav} being used by itself to indicate a minimum:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">{Hung buv rav: patlh Hut} "Classified Level 9 and Above" (Bird of Prey poster)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">{nen rav: chorgh ben} "Ages 8 to adult" (Klingon Monopoly)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I knew about those two, but they're phrased differently than the {rav/'aqroS} construction. The {rav/'aqroS} construction puts the {rav} before the value of the lower
bound, and is used in a larger sentence. Those two examples have {rav} at the end of the thing whose bounds are being described, and are used in a sort of standalone "label noun phrase: value noun phrase" context. They're different enough from the {rav/'aqroS}
construction that I didn't think they'd work so well as supporting evidence for using half of a {rav/'aqroS} construction by itself.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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