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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">AFAIK there are no examples of {mut} in canon so I don’t know why De’vID says that “{mut} seems to refer only to biological organisms” but the English word certainly
does. Here’s what I have in my notes:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">mut species (n)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">(KGT 132): Another set of similes link humanoid species of various kinds to certain qualities …<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">"We are similar as a species." (Kor, TOS "Errand of Mercy")<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Segh race (type, sort, class) (n)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hem tlhIngan Segh 'ej maHemtaH 'e' wIHech
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Klingons are a proud race, and we intend to go on being proud. (TKW)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">batlh tlhIngan Segh yIHub
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Defend the Klingon race with honor. (ST5 notes)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Segh: bI'rel tlharghDuj
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Model: B'rel Scout (KBoP Poster) [a.k.a. the B’rel-class scout]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">(KGT 41): The upper classes, for their part, incorporate a few archaic words into their speech. This is true among all age groups
in the upper classes. It may be considered a sign of erudition and respect for tradition; it does not represent an aversion to change."
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">(KGT 42): Similarly, the common word for teacup is {Dargh HIvje'} (literally, 'tea drinking vessel'). Among the upper classes, the
word {tu'lum} is used with some frequency, though, strictly speaking, this archaic word used to mean only a cup made of metal. … Among the lower classes — except for those working as servants for the higher classes — words like … {tu'lum} are known but seldom
used...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Advocate Kolos told Archer that the “warrior class” has taken control of Klingon society (ca. 2130). (ENT "Judgment")<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">(KGT 153): … the *Hur'q*, a race of humanoids from the Gamma Quadrant<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">And there are also words like {ghantoH} “model, example, pattern” and {DI’on} “characteristic, trait” to factor in.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">--<br>
Voragh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> tlhIngan-Hol
<b>On Behalf Of </b>De'vID<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 at 13:06, mayqel qunen'oS <<a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">Can an American please explain to me, what the difference is between the noun {Segh} and the noun {mut}?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">According to Ca'Non:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">Segh (n) "race (type, sort, class)"<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">mut (n) "species"<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">In science fiction movies/series I've heard both "the survival of the human race" and "the survival of the human species", so I can't understand what's the difference between these two.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">Does an American "feel" any difference between these two words? And I ask for the opinion of Americans, because 'oqranD is an American too, so I'm trying to understand what he means by each of these two words.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">I'm not an American, but {Segh} can be used for ships (the BoP poster has {Segh: bI'rel tlharghDuj}) into addition to {tlhIngan Segh}, whereas {mut} seems to refer only to biological organisms. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">{tlhIngan Segh} has been used in canon to refer generally to Klingons, but I would expect {tlhIngan mut} to be used only in scientific contexts.<br clear="all">
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