<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 2 Dec 2021 at 13:50, mayqel qunen'oS <<a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">[quoting SuStel] </blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">tlhIngan Hol vIghoj 'e' vImaS; vulqangan Hol vIghoj 'e' vImaS 'e' qa'.<br>
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I prefer to learn Klingon instead of Vulcan.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Literally, "I prefer that I learn Klingon. It replaces that I prefer that I learn Vulcan." That is, "I prefer learning Klingon instead of learning Vulcan."</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">So far so good. I understand your reply, and everything is clear. But<br>
what I've just wondered is this: Why can't we express the "I prefer to<br>
learn Klingon instead of Vulcan" by just placing a {'e' vImaS} after<br>
the {'e' qa'}? I mean like this:<br>
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{tlhIngan Hol vIghoj; vulqangan Hol vIghoj 'e' qa' 'e' vImaS}<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div>The problem here is that the {'e' vImaS} is too far away from the {tlhIngan Hol vIghoj}, so that it sounds like {tlhIngan Hol vIghoj} is a statement of fact, not a preference. One is inclined to interpret this literally as "I learn Klingon; I prefer that it replaces that I learn Vulcan" (i.e., you're learning Klingon, and you prefer that this was instead of Vulcan, maybe rather than instead of something else like Romulan or something). It's very confusing.</div><div><br></div><div>Since I knew the meaning you were going for, you want the sentence to be interpreted like this: "I prefer that: I learn Klingon; it replaces that I learn Vulcan". And I think it can mean that in retrospect, but the fact that one has to think about it should tell you that the construction is confusing. It's a "hindsight" sentence.</div><div><br></div><div>Why don't you just use the noun form of {'e' qa'}? {tlhIngan Hol vIghoj 'e' vImaS; vulqangan Hol ('e') qa'} "I prefer that I learn Klingon; it replaces Vulcan". Here, it's clear what {vulqangan Hol} is replacing, since {tlhIngan Hol} is the only other noun explicitly in the sentence.</div></div></div><div><br></div></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">De'vID</div></div>