<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body dir="auto">Regarding hyphens:<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In English, the hyphen used this way represents a genitive relationship. In Klingon, the genitive relationship is automatic in the noun-noun construction, so unnecessary. I've got no objection if you want to punctuate this way, but it is redundant. And you'll probably want to justify why you hyphenate <b>vIghro'-ghu </b>but not <b>tlhIngan-Hol,</b> and so on.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Hyphenation in this manner makes sense as a way to distinguish genitive constructions from other nouns placed side by side. But I don't know if you would want to do it all the time. </div><div><br></div><div align="left" dir="auto" style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: mayqel qunen'oS <mihkoun@gmail.com> </div><div>Date: 11/28/21 9:25 AM (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: tlhIngan Hol mailing list <tlhingan-hol@kli.org> </div><div>Subject: [tlhIngan Hol] expressing baby animals </div><div><br></div></div><div dir="auto">I remember having talked about this in the past without reaching a conclusion.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Anyways, I just decided that until we get a Ca'Non way to express this (yeah right, as if that's ever gonna happen..) I'll be using {Ha'DIbaH-ghu} like this:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">{vIghro'-ghu} for "kitten"</div><div dir="auto">{ngavyaw'-ghu} for "puppy"</div><div dir="auto">{bo'Degh-ghu} for whatever the hell you call baby birds in english.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Of course one could ask "but why don't say the opposite? i.e. {ghu-vIghro'}?".</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I thought of this possibility, and to be honest I can't feel much of a difference between a "cat baby" and a "baby cat", but perhaps being influenced from the Ca'Non {DI'raq loD}/{DI'raq be'}, which perhaps have nothing to do with the matter at hand, I prefer the {vIghro'-ghu} more. Let alone that the {vIghro'-ghu} is closer to the "baby of the cat" meaning. True, I could write just {vIghro' ghu} but I like the dash variety better.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Of course, in a couple of months, I may have forgotten what I wrote today and write {ghu-vIghro'}. Or {vIghro' ghu}. Go figure.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">And yes, I know that perhaps klingon doesn't do dashes between words, but as you well know I don't give a crap. I couldn't care less. No, seriously, if I cared any less I could die.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Just wanted to let you know.</div><div dir="auto"><br><div dir="auto" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">--<br>Dana'an <br><a href="https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/">https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/</a><br>Ζεὺς ἦν, Ζεὺς ἐστίν, Ζεὺς ἔσσεται· ὦ μεγάλε Ζεῦ</div></div></div>
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