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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/18/2021 10:04 AM, De'vID wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 at 15:17,
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<div>I agree that turning an entire sentence-as-object
construction into a subordinate clause heads toward too
much complexity, but given the relative simplicity of the
rest of it, I don't think this reaches the limit.<br>
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<p><b>pu' DIlo'; yan DIlo' 'e' qa'chugh, maQap.</b><i><br>
If we use phasers instead of swords, we'll win.</i></p>
<p>If the sentence-as-object construction were any more
complicated, it would probably be too much for me to
accept it stylistically. But I have no problem with this
one.</p>
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<div>While I had no problem understanding the intended meaning of
the Klingon sentence, I wonder if the {-chugh} isn't attached to
the wrong thing. The way it's written, it looks like "we use
phasers" is a statement, not a conditional.</div>
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<div>Maybe it should be {pu' DIlo'chugh, maQap; yan DIlo' 'e'
qa'}. I know that looks weird, but the grammar of {'e' qa'} is
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<p>You're right! We mustn't think of <b>pu' DIlo'; yan DIlo' 'e'
qa'</b> as a verbal phrase.</p>
<p>Maybe this can be simplified using the common shortcuts like so:</p>
<p><b>pu' DIlo'chugh, maQap; </b><b><b>yan qa'.<br>
</b></b><i>If we use phasers, we will succeed. It replaces
swords.<br>
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<p>I don't know whether this works in the more formal style,
however.</p>
<p>Tricky.</p>
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