<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Yeah, but it gets really interesting when you try to say, “My ship is faster than your ship.”<div><br></div><div>I mean, I like recasting things, but this feels worse than not having a question word for “which” and people whined about that for years. </div><div><br></div><div>{Do qaD lujeSchugh DujlIj DujwIj je, Qapbej DujwIj!}</div><div><br></div><div>{ngoQmajDaq DujlIj Sum law’ DujwIj Sum puS ‘ach nom ghoSlaHqu’mo’ DujwIj, pawlaHpa’ DujlIj, pawta’ DujwIj, jay’!} [seems a little wordy for competitive banter]</div><div><br></div><div>{qIbDaq DujwIj nom ghoSlaHghach Doj law’ Hoch Doj puS!} [Han Solo would probably look askance at his Klingon translator after THAT translation, though one might argue that it does a decent job of getting to the core of the boast.]<br><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Nov 8, 2021, at 10:58 AM, SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/8/2021 10:29 AM, Steven Boozer
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:DM6PR11MB305229DFD82C00392B5B4B47C1919@DM6PR11MB3052.namprd11.prod.outlook.com">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
<meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered
medium)">
<style>@font-face
{font-family:"Cambria Math";
panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;}a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}p.msonormal0, li.msonormal0, div.msonormal0
{mso-style-name:msonormal;
mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0in;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:0in;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;}span.EmailStyle18
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
color:#1F497D;}.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}</style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
<div class="WordSection1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I
assume that charghwI’ was responding to this post when Marc
Okrand was asked how to say "a fast ship":
<o:p></o:p></span>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">(MO,
qepHom 2012 [via Lieven 11/22/2012]): Maltz was unaware of
an adjective meaning “fast” (or “slow” for that matter). He
said in Klingon you wouldn't say that something is fast -
you'd say it moves fast. So instead of “You have a fast
ship”, you could say {nom leng DujlIj} “Your ship travels
fast” or {nom leng Duj Daghajbogh} “The ship that you have
travels fast.” If “your fast ship” is supposed to be the
subject or object of a sentence, you say something like
{tInqu' nom lengbogh DujlIj} “Your ship that travels fast is
very big” (or, less literally, “Your fast ship is very big”)
or {nom lengbogh DujlIj vIlegh} “I see your ship that
travels fast” (or “I see your fast ship”). <br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Presumably
this method works for slow ships as well. <g></span></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<p>I didn't remember this bit of canon, but this was going to be my
response as well. The only time the lack of a verb for <i>be fast</i>
is a problem is when you want to compare speeds — <b>nom leng</b><i>
travel fast</i> doesn't fit into the Q of a comparative. But
otherwise, there is really no issue here. A <i>fast ship</i> is a
<b>nom lengbogh Duj</b> or a <b>nom vIHbogh Duj.</b> To say <i>That
ship is fast,</i> say <b>nom leng Dujvetlh</b> or <b>nom vIH
Dujvetlh</b> or something like that. And the verb you attach <b>nom</b>
to doesn't have to be <b>leng</b> or <b>vIH.</b> You could say <b>nom
nIn natlhbogh QuQ</b><i> gas-guzzling engine</i> and <b>nom
bumbogh nav va'chum</b><i> fast-absorbing paper towel</i> <b>(nom
woHbogh woHwI'!).</b></p>
<p>And of course it works for <i>slow</i> as well. In fact, it
works for most adverbials.<br>
</p>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
SuStel
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://trimboli.name">http://trimboli.name</a></pre>
<span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>tlhIngan-Hol mailing list</span><br><span>tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org</span><br><span>http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org</span><br></div></blockquote></div></body></html>