<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:"Cambria Math";
panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Tahoma;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Consolas;
panose-1:2 11 6 9 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}
p
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0in;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:0in;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
pre
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"HTML Preformatted Char";
margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";}
span.HTMLPreformattedChar
{mso-style-name:"HTML Preformatted Char";
mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"HTML Preformatted";
font-family:Consolas;}
span.EmailStyle20
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
font-size:10.0pt;}
@page WordSection1
{size:8.5in 11.0in;
margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thank you for your comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>However, I was not asking for an explanation of the definition, which I understand. I was asking if anybody could tell me where the definition “for the benefit of” originated, as TKD defines {-vaD} simply as “for, intended for.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>SuStel<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 2, 2021 6:14 AM<br><b>To:</b> tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [tlhIngan Hol] {-vaD} "for the benefit of"<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 11/2/2021 2:01 AM, Lieven L. Litaer wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Am 02.11.2021 um 04:57 schrieb Scott D. Randel: <br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#007CFF'>I have asked several people where they learned that meaning, and all <br>they could tell me was that they read or heard that definition long ago. <br>TKD does not use that wording. Does anybody here translate it this way, <br>and if so, do you know where you learned that definition? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><br>I guess it is derived from the word benificiary, which TKD really uses. <br><br>“This suffix indicates that the noun to which it is attached is in some <br>way the beneficiary of the action, the person or thing for whom or for <br>which the activity occurs.” <br><br>I'm not sure if there is a difference between "beneficiary of" and <br>"benefit of".<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p>And in that quotation is a definition of the word. A beneficiary is a person or thing that receives a benefit.<o:p></o:p></p><p><b>Qu'vaD lI' De'vam</b><i> This information is useful for the mission.</i> The mission receives the benefit of the information's usefulness.<o:p></o:p></p><p><b>SoSDajvaD HaDqu' be'Hom</b><i> The girl studies hard for her mother.</i> The mother receives the benefit of knowing the girl is trying to do well in her studies.<o:p></o:p></p><p><b>qama'vaD taj nob 'avwI'</b><i> The guard gives the prisoner a knife.</i> The prisoner receives the benefit of possessing an object. This particular use also maps onto the concept of indirect object, and is described in the addendum to TKD as thus.<o:p></o:p></p><pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>SuStel<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://trimboli.name">http://trimboli.name</a><o:p></o:p></pre></div><div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br />
<table style="border-top: 1px solid #D3D4DE;">
<tr>
<td style="width: 55px; padding-top: 13px;"><a href="http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient" target="_blank"><img src="https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png" alt="" width="46" height="29" style="width: 46px; height: 29px;" /></a></td>
<td style="width: 470px; padding-top: 12px; color: #41424e; font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 18px;">Virus-free. <a href="http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient" target="_blank" style="color: #4453ea;">www.avg.com</a>
</td>
</tr>
</table><a href="#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2" width="1" height="1"> </a></div></body></html>