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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/22/2021 12:19 PM,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:luis.chaparro@web.de">luis.chaparro@web.de</a> wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:trinity-025f51cf-72ae-42fc-b9ba-61699646afff-1632327576267@3c-app-webde-bap20">I
was just wondering if the information about compound nouns,
adjectival verbs and nominalized verbs we find on Klingonska (but
not in TKD) bases on some canonical evidence.
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<p>I haven't done more than skim the Klingonska page about these
things. What does it say that TKD doesn't?<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">As an aside: When TKD says *two syllables in a row* it doesn't mean *adjacent syllables*, right?</pre>
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<p>Yes, that's what it means, provided the syllables are part of the
same word.<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap=""> And were all verbs at the beginning monosyllabic? (speaking of verbs TKD only says: *the stressed syllable is usually the verb itself*).</pre>
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<p>Unknown, but almost all verbs are monosyllabic. There are, what,
only three or four exceptions?<br>
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cite="mid:trinity-025f51cf-72ae-42fc-b9ba-61699646afff-1632327576267@3c-app-webde-bap20">Ok!
Just a question: The sentences I wrote (*ghItlhwI' 'op paq*, *'op
ghItlhwI' paq*) are not clear, but are they grammatical? Or should
I avoid such constructions?
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<p>They're not sentences; they're noun phrases. They are clear, but
they are not as distinct as the English translations you're giving
them.</p>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">3. Are ellipses like this one allowed in Klingon?: *wa'Hu' chab vISoppu', DaHjaj naH*. Or must I repeat *vISoppu'*?
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">We don't have a lot of guidance regarding sentence fragments. What I will say is that, colloquially, Klingons seem to use them a lot. I have no problem with your suggestion, provided it's clearly said in a colloquial setting. Don't try that sort of thing where formality would be preferred.
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So, formally I should always repeat information (*wa'Hu' chab vISoppu', DaHjaj naH vISoppu'*) or maybe look for another word (wa'Hu' chab vISoppu', DaHjaj naH vIwIvpu'*)?</pre>
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<p>Yes, repetition is fine in Klingon. You might include a <b>je</b>
at the end of those to tie the ideas together.<br>
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