<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">The only part that seems weird to me (besides the already mentioned problem with stative verbs) is the use of {-chuqlu’}. It’s just a gut reaction since I tend to think of indefinite subjects as singular. {not Sovlu’.} “One never knows.” We don’t know who the One is, hence the Indefinite Subject, and likely more than one individual could stand in the place of the Indefinite Subject, but can the Indefinite Subject be plural? Maybe, but I’m not so sure.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The canon example that eventually arose fit this Singular Indefinite Subject model of the grammar. {potlhbe'chugh yay, qatlh pe''eghlu’?} If winning is not important, why does one keep score?”</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The use of {-chuq} implies two nouns as Indefinite Subject. It takes at least two to do anything to each other. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Maybe this is fine, but it feels weird and I don’t think I’ve run into any canon to support it.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Add that the verb prefixes with {-lu’} always use the singular third person object indicated, while basically reversing the subject/object functions of the prefix, heavily suggesting a singular Indefinite Subject. We can say {vIparHa’lu’}, (somebody likes me), and {wIparHa’lu’} (somebody likes us), but we can’t say *DIparHa’lu’* (multiple somebodies like us). It’s specifically disallowed by the grammar.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So, I’m not posing as a false authority by banning the use of {-chuqlu’}, but I do think it’s weird and I don’t think it’s a shoe-in, definitely right combination.</div><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 14, 2021, at 8:19 AM, mayqel qunen'oS <<a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" class="">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Is there anything strange in using {-'egh}/{-chuq} with {-lu'}?<div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Quch'eghlu'</div><div dir="auto" class="">QuchchuqmoHlu'</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">I don't see anything grammatically wrong, but using {-'egh}/{-chuq} with {-lu'}, gives me the feeling as in using {-lu'} with {-wI'} (e.g. HIvlu'wI'), which although it doesn't break any rules, it's something we don't actually use.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">~ Dana'an</div></div>
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