<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Yep. Every lord is my lord when I greet him in the presence of his buff, well-armed guards.<div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 12, 2021, at 3:27 AM, De'vID <<a href="mailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com" class="">de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 11 Sept 2021 at 15:35, SuStel <<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" class="">sustel@trimboli.name</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="">On 9/11/2021 9:22 AM, mayqel qunen'oS
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<blockquote type="cite" class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Seemingly/apparently,
in direct address you can't use the word {joH} unless you either
say {ghawran joH} or {joHwI'}.</div>
<br class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">So, let's say
you see a lord ready to cross the street and be run over by a
bus.. You don't remember his name, and he isn't your lord
either..</div>
<br class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">According to
the wisdom of the klingon language, you can't say {joH,
yIyItchoHQo'}. Oh, no.. That's wrong..</div>
</blockquote><p class="">Hang on. What wisdom are you referring to? I don't remember
seeing anything that said <b class="">joH</b> without the <b class="">-wI'</b>
can't be used in direct address all by itself. Did I miss
something?</p></div></blockquote><div class="">I think mayqel may have misunderstood this sentence:</div><div class="">> When addressing the head of a house, a member of a lower class may use either the name plus {joH} or else {joH} plus {-wI'} [...] {joHwI'} (my Lord, my Lady).<br class=""><br class="">It says "the head of *a* house", not "the head of *one's own* house". It's perfectly fine to say {joHwI'} in direct address to a head of a Klingon House which isn't one's own. The use of the possessive {-wI'} here seems to indicate "a lord/lady relative to me", "a person in a higher social position relative to me", and not necessarily "the lord/lady of my house". </div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div>-- <br class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">De'vID</div></div>
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