<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Then there’s all those cases in canon of {tu’lu’} where {lutu’lu’} would be appropriate…<br><br><div dir="ltr">-charghwI’, retired.</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Aug 24, 2021, at 1:43 PM, SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/24/2021 1:19 PM, Will Martin
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">It should be noted that omitting the verb prefix {lu-} is probably the single most common grammatical error in the language. Okrand has done it in canon multiple times.
It’s akin to screwing up “who” vs. “whom” in English. Anyone “who” knows the rules knows when to use “whom”, but might mindlessly screw up anyway, and others simply never get it right, in English always using “who” or in Klingon always using the null prefix for all third person subject verbs, even when the subject is plural and the object is singular.</pre>
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<p>There's a difference. Klingons clearly know how to use <b>lu-</b>
but just forget it sometimes; English speakers usually don't know
the difference between <i>who</i> and <i>whom.</i> In English,
using <i>who</i> as an object has become not only something to
ignore, but actually acceptable and even preferred. If you use <i>whom</i>
correctly, a lot of people will think your speech is stilted. That
does not seem to be the case with Klingon <b>lu-.</b> We are
told, instead, that omitting <b>lu-</b> may be jarring to many
Klingons' ears and considered an error, but that it is often
overlooked, except in formal situations. KGT also suggests that
Klingons' general disagreeableness may be responsible for their
not trying too hard to follow the grammatical rule of <b>rom.</b><br>
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SuStel
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