<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">TKD says a few things about {je}, both as an adverb and as a noun conjunction, and it says a few things about the importance of context. The two placements of {je} you offered would seem perfectly appropriate if preceded by the following context-providing sentences:<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">- muQoy HoD.</div><div class="">- mulegh je HoD.</div><div class=""><div class=""><div dir="auto" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div><br class=""></div></div></div><div>- mulegh be’nalwI’.</div><div>- mulegh HoD je.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>I take TKD at its word and follow the verb with {je} when using it adverbially, not interpreting “follows the verb" to mean “follow the entire verb clause”. If it’s after a noun, I interpret it as a noun conjunction, even if it follows one noun, assuming that context might suggest other nouns to add this one to.</div><div><div><br class=""></div><div>Why?</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Well, adverbs don’t generally follow verbs. They generally precede them. {je} is an exception. Likely, since the homonym follows the nouns it modifies, the adverb follows the verb it modifies. That’s not explicitly explained in TKD, but it’s just a reasonable idea based on observation.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>pItlh</div><div><br class=""></div><div>charghwI’ ‘utlh</div><div>(ghaH, ghaH, -Daj)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 10, 2021, at 6:01 AM, Lieven L. Litaer <<a href="mailto:levinius@gmx.de" class="">levinius@gmx.de</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Hello dear,<br class=""><br class="">I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I can't find it. So maybe<br class="">the answere is just a reference to the discusion.<br class=""><br class="">This is one of the few things I keep messing up all the time: TKD says<br class="">{je} comes after the verb, but what if there is a subject after that verb?<br class=""><br class="">{mulegh je HoD}<br class="">or<br class="">{mulegh HoD je}<br class=""><br class="">My feeling says that both are correct with a different meaning, but I<br class="">want to be sure.<br class=""><br class="">--<br class="">Lieven L. Litaer<br class="">aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany"<br class=""><a href="http://www.tlhInganHol.com" class="">http://www.tlhInganHol.com</a><br class="">http://klingon.wiki/En/AliceInWonderland<br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">tlhIngan-Hol mailing list<br class="">tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org<br class="">http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>