<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Again, point taken.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I will continue to work on being a better tlhIngan Hol citizen/community member with less interfering ego.</div><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 23, 2021, at 7:52 AM, mayqel qunen'oS <<a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" class="">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">charghwI':<br class="">
> I think you are leaning heavily upon the “an unknown or unspecified quantity”<br class="">
> part of the gloss and skipping over the perhaps more meaningful “some” part of the gloss.<br class="">
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You're right about that. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.<br class="">
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charghwI':<br class="">
> I will confess an aversion to things said of Klingon that start with<br class="">
> “I just realized there’s no rule against…” or “It occurs to me that you could…”<br class="">
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I understand, and respect this; in fact I feel a similar aversion/disgust to people hitting the "like" button everytime an "expert" writes anything on facebook.. And I'm writing "expert" because a person who has never answered a difficult question, isn't an expert. However, many rush to feed these people's ego, a phenomenon which disgusts me. Groveling before "masters" is shameful and pathetic.<br class="">
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charghwI':<br class="">
> This is 100% my personal reaction, in that it feels like, “I know that I could spend decades<br class="">
> actually using the language without ever needing to deal with this odd little grammatical issue,<br class="">
> but I don’t really care enough about learning to use the language to get practice by using it.<br class="">
> I’d rather just poke at it.”<br class="">
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Again, I'm sorry you see it this way, however I totally respect your view on the matter. But two things here:<br class="">
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1. The need for this thread appeared when I needed to express "an unknown quantity which is small". Unfortunately, I cannot share the sentence because it concerns something personal I was thinking at the time.<br class="">
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2. You would be *very* surprised to the amount of info which has been disclosed in the past six years, after my "poking" of the language. And I will give an example:<br class="">
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Sometime ago I wondered about the {mej}/{tlheD} difference. Or rather "poked at it" as you would say.. One option was to use them randomly/interchangeably, and the other was to ask, a thing which I did.. Of course, no one knew at the time, but a little later 'oqranD disclosed their difference.<br class="">
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Something similar happened with the verb {chol}, with a comment from 'oqranD on the noun {Daq}, with the {qey'Hav} (where I was asked by 'oqranD through lieven if the word was to express only the vulva or the vagina too), and the list goes on..<div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">With the exception of {qey'Hav}, I don't know how these information came to be disclosed a little later after my asking; I can imagine, but anyway the "how" isn't what's important here.<br class="">
<br class="">And I'm not writing all this because I want a medal or something; I'm writing this to show that we all contribute to the language, each in his own way:<br class="">
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SuStel and De'vID contribute by being experts (something which they've proven by answering difficult questions), voragh shares his archive which I'm sure took a lot of work to compile, qurgh maintains the infrastructure that we use..<br class="">
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And I contribute by poking.. Does this "poking" become obnoxious at times? Perhaps.. But all that matters, is that if Hermes the psychopomp came for me today, I would happy crossing over, knowing that there are things in the language which exist because I "poked".<br class="">
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wa' Dol nIvDaq matay'DI' maQap<br class="">
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~ Dana'an</div></div>
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