<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">wovmoHbogh jan vIchu’bej, ‘ach ‘ul peSHa’lu’law’ qoj janvam natlhlu'chu’pu'.</div><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 21, 2021, at 7:56 AM, mayqel qunen'oS <<a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" class="">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">With regard (or is it "with regards"?) to the first part of the question, I think the answer is pretty straightforward.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Since we have {wovmoHbogh jan} for "light (device)" and we also have {chu'} "engage, activate (a device)", then "turn on the lights"/"turn off the lights", obviously needs to be {wovmoHbogh jan yIchu'}/{wovmoHbogh jan yIchu'Ha'}. And I don't think there would be any problem with extending this use of the verb {chu'} "engage, activate (a device)" for the nouns {wovmoHwI'} "light (lamp)"/{wovmoHwI' moQ} "light bulb" too.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">On the other hand though, I *do* wonder about how we would describe when we would flip the switch but the device wouldn't work because someone had cut the electricity (I don't know how you say it in english..).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Would it be sufficient to say {'ul tu'lu'be'}/{pagh 'ul tu'lu'}? Could we say {'ul chu'Ha'lu'pu'}? Obviously electricity isn't a device which can be "engaged, activated" and "disengaged, deactivated", on the other hand though isn't it something which *can be* "engaged, activated" and "disengaged, deactivated"?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">~ Dana'an</div><div class="">"invoked or not invoked, the gods are there" (ancient spartan saying)<br class=""></div>
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