<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">I have no evidence that it is a fossilized phrase. It was a good guess in that it would explain the odd phrasing, and if it had been correct, you or others would have confirmed it.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So far, it remains unconfirmed, so likely, it is not a fossilized expression, and my erroneous assumption joins the huge mass of erroneous assumptions shot down by this list over the decades. The main difference between my error and many of the others is that I have no ego attached, and so I’m not coming back with some new argument to suggest that I was right all along. I was probably NOT right all along, and I have no problem confessing that.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">… unless someone else comes up with evidence that it is a fossilized expression, or if they come up with a generalized trend for moving the marked object in front of the adverbial — something you have suggested and seems to be the winning explanation thus far. Assuming it remains unchallenged, it becomes the new consensus, until canon or future arguments win out.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">After all, a Darwinian beak evolved for a specific food doesn’t go unchanged forever if the available food changes.</div><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 11, 2021, at 10:13 AM, SuStel <<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" class="">sustel@trimboli.name</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/11/2021 10:10 AM, Will Martin
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<div class="">It’s been my intentional habit for some time now
that I’m less interested in saying anything authoritatively
right than I am in prompting others who know better than myself
to clarify details that have, thus far in the discussion, been
left unexplored.</div>
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<div class="">Thank you for providing that clarification.</div>
</blockquote><p class="">What clarification did I provide? I asked what your evidence was
for saying that <b class="">maS'e' loQ So'be'bogh QIb</b> is a fossilized
phrase.<br class="">
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