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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/10/2021 9:25 AM, mayqel qunen'oS
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<div>On/in/at SkyBox 3 there's the following:</div>
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<div>'ejyo' luch rurbe'qu' tlhIngan Duj luch. HoS law'qu' luch
law'qu' je lo' Duj nuH pat Hub pat je. motlh ray' luSamlaHmeH
De' Qatlh cha' tlhIngan Duj jIH'a'. motlh pIm 'ejyo' Dujmey.<br>
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Klingon starship design is vastly different from Starfleet
technology. A huge amount of the ship's power and technology
is devoted to its weapons grid and defensive systems. Unlike
most Starfleet vessels, the main viewer on a Klingon ship is
usually overlaid with a complex target acquisition grid.</div>
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<div>(I wrote on/in/at, since I have no idea what the jay'
SkyBox 3 is, nor do I give a crap to find out either).</div>
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<div>Anyways.. If I understand this Ca'Non sentence correctly,
the {ray' luSamlaHmeH De' Qatlh} is a construction where
there's the {-meH}'ed noun of {luSamlaHmeH De' Qatlh} with the
{De' Qatlh} being meant as "difficult/complex informations",
and in turn, the {luSamlaHmeH De' Qatlh} has as its' object
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<p>No, I think <b>De' Qatlh</b> is the object of <b>cha'.</b>
Complex data does not find targets<br>
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<p><b>motlh ray' luSamlaHmeH, De' Qatlh cha' tlhIngan Duj jIH'a'.</b></p>
<p>The real question is, what is the subject of <b>luSamlaHmeH?</b>
I think it's the <b>nuH pat</b> and <b>Hub pat</b> of the
previous sentence. This flows naturally the way the Klingon
sentences are arranged. <br>
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<div>If the way I understand this is correct, then this shows
that a {-meH}'ed noun can take an object, and that the {De'}
"data, information" can be pluralized.</div>
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<p>I don't think this card proves either of these points. I wouldn't
have a problem with a purpose clause attached to a noun having an
object anyway. We already have one with implicit object and
subject: <b>qaSuchmeH 'eb</b><i> opportunity for me to visit you</i>
(<a href="http://klingonska.org/canon/1998-01-18b-news.txt">klingonska.org/canon/1998-01-18b-news.txt</a>).</p>
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