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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Don’t forget the verb {raw} “lightning”: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> rawbogh Qun neH ghaH ZEUS’e’
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> Zeus is the only god that “lightnings”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">or even as an epithet:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> ZEUS rawwI’
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> Zeus, the “lightning-er”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">True, these translations sound decidedly awkward in English but probably less so in Klingon. BTW, we’ve seen a weather verb used metaphorically in Klingon:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> ghIq QavwI'chaj DuQchu' qeylIS betleH chaHDaq SIStaHvIS negh 'Iw
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> Then Kahless's bat'leth pierced the last of them, showered with the
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soldiers' blood. (PB)<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">… and in English:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(st.klingon 11/1997): Speakers who do this seem to be aware that they are breaking the rules, so they are doing it for rhetorical effect. (It has the same sort of feeling, perhaps, as if someone were to say in English … “<i>It's lightninging
and thundering outside</i>…”) <br>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Voragh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">__________________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> mayqel qunen'oS<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">Thank you SuStel, voragh, and charghwI' for taking the time to reply.<br>
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voragh:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">> Or is lightning (the general phenomenon) an attribute
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">> of another god whom you need to distinguish from Zeus?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">No, the only god in reference to whom I've seen the lightning bolt is Zeus.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">In the beginning, I hadn't given much thought to this matter, and used {pe'bIl}, because I thought that in English lightning and lightning bolt were actually the same. Until I wondered why all English sources
about Zeus say "lightning bolt" instead of just "lightning". It was then when I became confused. On the other hand though, I thought "but I've never heard someone say in English 'he was hit by a lightning bolt', so how much of a difference can there be"?<o:p></o:p></p>
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