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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/24/2021 8:21 AM, mayqel qunen'oS
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<div>This is another subject in the category of "I don't
understand because English isn't my native language". And the
thing I don't understand, is if a native English speaker
hearing "lightning" will understand/can understand (based on
context), "lightning bolt" too.</div>
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<p>In English, <i>lightning, lightning bolt, thunder,</i> and <i>thunderbolt</i>
can all be used kinda-sorta interchangeably. We understand the
difference between thunder (the sound) and lightning (the visible
discharge), but people mix them up all the time. It's not unusual
for someone to see a flash in the sky and declare, "I saw
thunder," or to hear a rumble and say, "I hear lightning." They're
not technically correct to do so, but it's very common.<br>
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<p>Someone being more careful would probably distinguish them like
so:</p>
<p><i>Lightning:</i> uncountable noun referring to atmospheric
electrical discharge or sometimes just its visible component.</p>
<p><i>Lightning bolt:</i> countable noun referring to a single
electrical discharge.</p>
<p><i>Thunder:</i> uncountable noun referring to the sound caused by
atmospheric electrical discharge.</p>
<p><i>Thunderbolt:</i> countable noun referring to the sound caused
by a single electrical discharge.</p>
<p>These are also not necessarily exclusively correct.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I want to say "One of the attributes of Zeus is the
lightning bolt"; i.e. "the thing which looks like an arrow/spear
made of lightning" which is held by Zeus. (Picture: <a
href="https://stock.adobe.com/gr_en/search/images?k=zeus+lightning+hand"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://stock.adobe.com/gr_en/search/images?k=zeus+lightning+hand</a>)<br>
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Is it enough to write:<br>
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pe'bIl 'oH wa' zeus DI'on''e'<br>
one of the characteristics of zeus is the lightning<br>
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Or should I necessarily write:<br>
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pe'bIl tIH 'oH wa' zeus DI'on''e'<br>
one of the characteristics of zeus is the lightning ray/beam</div>
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<p>Lightning doesn't come in rays. Unless Okrand has said otherwise,
there is no such thing as a <b>pe'bIl tIH</b> outside of pulp
films and novels. I dunno, maybe the word <b>tIH</b> is more
flexible than that, but if it is, I'm not aware of any
confirmation of this. Maybe Klingons talk about <b>pan</b><i>
emit sparks. </i>I dunno.<br>
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<p>Since the English word <i>lightning</i> could refer to either
the general phenomenon or a singular bolt, I don't think you'll be
able to answer exactly what <b>pe'bIl </b>means. I'd just leave
it as <b>pe'bIl 'oH wa' Zeus DI'on'e'.</b><br>
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