<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Your toolbox is bigger than you apparently think. If it is important to convey “I cause the animal to be able to enter the cage,” you could say:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">jIHmo’ mo’ ‘ellaH Ha’DIbaH.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If you cause an action, then you are the cause of that action.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Similarly, instead of {Ha’DIbaHvaD mo’ vI’elmoH}, you could have said {jIHmo’ mo’ ‘el Ha’DIbaH}, which is what I do as a personal style of speech because I dislike the common method Klingon uses {-vaD} with {-moH}. I’m not saying it’s wrong. I’m merely saying that the alternative is perfectly acceptable, though it has limits.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This is not advice. It’s just an alternative.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If you really do want to say, “I am able to cause the animal to enter the cage,” then the alternative doesn’t work. You have to say {Ha’DIbaHvaD mo’ vI’ellaHmoH.} There’s no other way I know to combine ability and causation for the subject, and since moving causation to the action of the verb does have an alternative and keeping it with the causation does not, I’m naturally inclined to interpret {Ha’DIbaHvaD mo’ vI’ellaHmoH} to mean “I am able to cause the animal to enter the cage.”</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Unless…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">mo’ ‘elbejmeH Ha’DIbaH, jIvanglaH.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There are many ways…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">People think I’m trying to evade grammatical issues and it seems to annoy them when more accurately, I simply want to express meanings well using the Klingon language in all its variety of ways. I’m not trying to shut down other approaches. I’m just trying to point out alternative methods so that people wishing to use the language will find themselves less entangled in the mess of overusing one tool while ignoring others that might work better for them.</div><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 6, 2021, at 8:08 AM, mayqel qunen'oS <<a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" class="">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="auto" class="">mu'tlhegh rapDaq {-vaD} {-moH} je vIlo'taHvIS, pIjHa' {-moH} qengbogh wotDaq latlh mojaq vIlan.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">vaj qen jISIvchoHpu'..</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div>jIqon:<div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Ha'DIbaHvaD mo' vI'elmoH</div><div dir="auto" class="">I cause the animal to enter the cage</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">'ej DaH jIqon:</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Ha'DIbaHvaD mo' vI'ellaHmoH</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">jatlhbej mu'tlheghvam: "I'm able to cause the animal to enter the cage".</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">'a fse mu'tlhegh veb jatlhlaH'a' je?</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">"I cause the animal to be able to enter the cage"</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">chaq nap muSIvmoHbogh Sojvam, 'a jatlh 'amerI'qa'nganpu': < DaQanlu' pagh DaQoSchoHmoHlu'; qaq DuH wa'. ></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">'ej lughchu' 'amerI'qa'nganpu'.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">~ Dana'an</div></div>
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