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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/24/2021 8:40 AM, Lieven L. Litaer
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cite="mid:a30581e2-4e3c-5c74-9e84-9e2483412205@gmx.de">Am
24.03.2021 um 13:26 schrieb mayqel qunen'oS:
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<blockquote type="cite" style="color: #007cff;">'oqranD:
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<blockquote type="cite" style="color: #007cff;">Maltz didn't
know of any special way to say "overwinter." He said
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to just say something like {qaStaHvIS qImroq bIrqu', nuqDaq
Qong
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valqe'mey?} if that covers what they're driving at.
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I wonder whether the {qImroq bIrqu'} should be taken as the
Ca'non way
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of expressing "winter".
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I think that should be okay. Okrand has used {qImroq tuj} before
on
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qep'a' 2016</blockquote>
<p>Without further explanation, it should be considered "a thing
that Okrand has canonically said" rather than "the canonical way
to translate <i>winter.</i>" I wouldn't expect the <b>-qu'</b>
to be mandatory, for instance, and we cannot rule out the
possibility that the given sentence is meant to express something
like <i>what if there's an unusually cold season?</i></p>
<p>We also don't know much about how the climate of Kronos may have
influenced the development of Klingon in this matter. In English
we have words for the cold season <i>(winter),</i> the hot season
<i>(summer),</i> the season when growth begins <i>(spring),</i>
and the season where hibernation begins (<i>autumn</i> or<i> fall</i>).
But we don't have native words for the rainy and dry seasons of
equatorial climates, because English did not develop in this kind
of climate. So I don't take it as an absolute given that Klingon
should name the same seasons that we from temperate climates do,
or that if we see them name one of our seasons that that name is
the standard term for a common idea among Klingons.</p>
<p>I would, at most, say that <b>qImroq bIr</b> is an acceptable
way to express <i>winter,</i> whether or not it's THE way. It
means <i>cold season,</i> and that simply describes winter, just
as <i>rainy season</i> describes an equatorial season but we
don't have a word for it and it's not THE way to say it.<br>
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