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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">(Okrand, qepHom 2019): The difference between {mej} “leave” and {tlheD} “depart” is that {tlheD} implies setting out on a journey, having a goal or destination
in mind, while {mej} refers simply to leaving one's current location. In both cases, the object is the place you're departing/leaving from.<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Here are some examples of {mej} to study with SuStel’s explanation in mind:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">ghorgh mamej
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">When do we leave? (CK)<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">vagh rep bImejnIS
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Check-out time is five a.m. (CK)<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">bImejDI' reH betleHlIj yItlhap
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Never leave without your bet'telh. (TKW )<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">DorDI' jar mejpu'
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">At the end of the month, he/she left. (HQ 12.2:8)<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">DaH jImej
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Good-bye. (TNK)<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">bImej 'ej bIyIn
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[translation unavailable] (PB)<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">yImej qeylIS
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Be gone with you, Kahless (PB)<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">yIghoS yImej
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Go now, leave me. (PB)<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">mej loD qan
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The old man walks away (PB)<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">jatlh 'e' mevDI' nuvpu' mejmoH ghaH ratlh be'nalDaj luqara' neH.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">After his last words, all were sent away, but his wife Lukara. (PB)<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">vavlI' loDnI'lI' je DaSammeH ghe'tor Da'elmo' 'ej Damejmo' QeHchoH qa'pu' vaj lubIjlu'
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">They will pay for the anger you caused by entering and leaving, Gre'thor in search of your kin. (PB)<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">ghe'tor Da'elta' 'ej lojmItmeyvo' Damejta' 'ach bIrIQbe'mo' SoH neH<br>
Since you are the only one who ever entered Gre'thor, and left the gates unharmed (PB)<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">bIghHa' DamejDI' pagh QaS yInob
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Get out of jail free. (MKE)<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">… and examples of {tlheD}:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><br>
tlheDrup qeylIS <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">(PB, section title)<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">tlheDDI' quvmoHmeH / veng HeHDaq lutlha' / SaD law' nuvpu'
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thousands followed him to the edge of the city, to bid him farewell. (PB)<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">ghe'tor 'el nuv ghe'torvo' tlheD ghaH / 'e' tu'be'chugh neH veqlargh / ghe'torvo' cheghlaH nuvvam
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">One can only return from this Underworld, If Fek'lhr does not notice one Entering or leaving Gre'thor. (PB)<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">tera' jaj cha'maH, jar vagh, DIS wa' Hut cha' Soch, PARIS pawmeH NEW YORK-vo' tlheDta'.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[untranslated] (NASM, Spirit of St. Louis)<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">--Voragh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> SuStel<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 23, 2021 10:20 AM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 3/23/2021 11:12 AM, mayqel qunen'oS wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The verb {mej} refers simply to leaving one's current location, while {tlheD} generally implies setting on a journey with a goal or destination in mind.
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<p class="MsoNormal">But that's rather strange, since normal sane people, never leave any location without a goal or destination in mind.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Normal, sane people, don't suddenly get up, leave their house,work,etc without a goal or destination in mind.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Normal, sane people, don't suddenly find themselves in the street, just wandering without a goal or destination in mind.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Sure they do. "I can see you two want to be alone... uh... so, uh... I'll just be heading out... I guess?" That's
<b>mej</b> but not <b>tlheD.</b> You're not leaving to go somewhere; you're leaving so you're not here.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>"Get out of my face! I don't want to see you anymore!" You're ordering someone to
<b>mej,</b> not <b>tlheD.</b> You don't care where they go, so long as they go.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>"Closing time! You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here." That's <b>
mej, </b>not <b>tlheD.</b> You're being kicked out of the bar, and the bartender is specifically telling you that what your destination is doesn't matter.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>"Cindy, your brother is sleepwalking again. He just left the room." The sleepwalker needn't have a destination in mind. That's
<b>mej,</b> not <b>tlheD.</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Any why are you excluding insane people from the grammar? Maybe an insane person simply walks out of the room and wanders the street for absolutely no reason. That's
<b>mej,</b> not <b>tlheD.</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>--<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>SuStel<o:p></o:p></pre>
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