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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/5/2021 8:19 AM, Felix Malmenbeck
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
color:black" lang="EN-US">> Suppose we want to say: "if
someone believes
<span style="">gowron</span> is crazy, he's wrong".</span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
color:black" lang="EN-US">> There are two options:</span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
color:black" lang="EN-US">> <span style="">
maw</span>' <span style="">ghawran</span> net <span
style="">Harchugh</span>, <span style="">
vaj</span> <span style="">mujlu</span>'.</span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
color:black" lang="EN-US">> <span style="">
maw</span>' <span style="">ghawran</span> net <span
style="">Harchugh</span>, <span style="">
vaj</span> <span style="">muj</span> <span style="">vay'vam</span>/<span
style="">nuvvam</span>/<span style="">ghotvam</span>/etc.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
color:black" lang="EN-US">Given these two options, I would go
with the first; using an indefinite subject and then
immediately following it up with a reference to that subject
“smells” off to me, even if I can’t necessarily say that it’s
wrong.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
color:black" lang="EN-US">It's like you're actively avoiding
talking about a person, but then you have a reference to the
person as though you were just talking about them.</span></p>
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<p>Right. <b>vay'vam</b> presumes that there's a <b>vay'</b> in
the first place, and an indefinite subject is not the same as <b>vay'.</b><br>
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