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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Here’s Okrand’s post to Lieven for review:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">(Lieven < MO, qepHom, 11/03/2016): For a statement that's counterfactual (or "irrealis"), a phrase with the verb jal ("imagine, envision") is used: {... net jalchugh} ("if
one imagines that…", "if it is imagined that…"). For example:<br>
{tlhIngan SoH net jalchugh, qagh DatIv}<br>
This is "If you were a Klingon, you would enjoy gagh" or, literally, "If one imagines that you are a Klingon, you would enjoy gagh." The implication is that you are not a Klingon. Compare:<br>
{qaghwIj DaSopchugh, qaHoH}<br>
"If you eat my gagh, I'll kill you."<br>
{qaghwIj DaSop net jalchugh, qaHoH}<br>
"If you were eating my gagh, I would kill you"<br>
(literally: "If one imagines that you are eating my gagh …").<br>
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Voragh, <i>Ca'Non Master of the Klingons</i><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> SuStel<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2/23/2021 9:20 AM, mayqel qunen'oS wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> You are thinking in English, not Klingon. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> net jalchugh means exactly what it says <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> and introduces an irrealis. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But this is what I don't understand; what does the {net jalchugh} say? "if you are" or "if you were"?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>It says <i>if one imagines.</i> The sentence that precedes it is the situation that one might imagine. Since it is imagined, it is not real, thus an irrealis.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre>SuStel<o:p></o:p></pre>
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