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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/15/2021 8:10 AM, mayqel qunen'oS
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<div dir="auto">Read the following:
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<div dir="auto">yaSvaD taj vInob</div>
<div dir="auto">I give the knife to the officer</div>
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<div dir="auto">yaSvaD taj vIqem</div>
<div dir="auto">I give the knife to the officer by bringing it
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<p>You might give the knife to the officer, but you don't say so in
this sentence. This sentence just says you bring the knife to the
officer. Whether the officer picks it up after you bring it is
another sentence.<br>
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<div dir="auto">yaSvaD taj vIngeH</div>
<div dir="auto">I give the knife to the officer by sending it to
him</div>
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<div dir="auto">So when giving something to someone we use the
{-vaD} regardless whether we bring it to him, or send it to
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<p>No. We use <b>-vaD</b> when we want to specify the recipient or
beneficiary of the verb. When you're specifying a recipient, this
role is called the <i>indirect object.</i><br>
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<div dir="auto">But would we use the {-vaD} too even if we threw
the knife to him?</div>
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<div dir="auto">Ha'DIbaHvaD chuvmey vIvo'</div>
<div dir="auto">I give the leftovers to the animal by throwing
them to it</div>
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<p>You propel he leftovers, intending them to be received by the
animal. That's a perfectly good use of the indirect object.</p>
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<div dir="auto">Would this sentence be correct, or does the
{vo'} change something, thus making the choice of {-vaD}
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<div dir="auto">I don't see any reason for the choice between
{-Daq} and {-vaD} to be influenced by the way something is
given, but I'd like to verify this.</div>
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<p>If you said <b>Ha'DIbaHDaq chuvmey vIvo' </b><i>I throw the
leftovers at the animal,</i> then grammatically the animal is a
target, not a recipient. You might intend this lobbing of
leftovers as an act of giving, and this might come across in
context, but it's not expressed in the sentence.</p>
<p><b>-Daq</b> means a location. <b>-vaD</b> means a recipient or
other beneficiary. It's not about what verb you use.<br>
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