<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">I apologize for the careless use of the word “own”, though in so doing, I proved my point, in that the community exists to agree upon what is correct, and since the vocabulary comes exclusively from Okrand (except when he graciously decides to accept words invented by others, like the famous {‘I’} for “armpit, and the names of creatures and weapons and ceremonies invented by authors of Klingon novels, and the original vocabulary from the first Star Trek movie, and the muffed lines and erroneous movie editing, giving an existing line a completely different meaning, and…), we continue to hold Dr. Marc Okrand as the highest authority in the language as known to humans, unless you wish to defer to Maltz, to whom Okrand defers.</div><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 20, 2021, at 1:49 PM, janSIy . <<a href="mailto:kenjutsuka@live.com" class="">kenjutsuka@live.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Consolas, Courier, monospace; font-size: 12pt;" class="">ghItlh lay'tel SIvten:</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""> </div></div><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="x_gmail_default" style="font-family: "courier new", monospace;"><span style="font-family: "courier new", monospace;" class="">> As for Okrand owning the language, I don't believe that's true, or even possible.</span></div><div class="x_gmail_default" style="font-family: "courier new", monospace;">>(Not to mention Paramount's claims of ownership.)</div><div class="x_gmail_default" style="font-family: "courier new", monospace;"><br class=""></div></div><div class="x_gmail_quote"><div class="">Neither Paramount nor CBS have ever made claims of ownership. The closest that has happened is CBS's claim that the use of the Klingon language along with other recognizable features makes a creative work recognizably a copy of their copyrighted properties. CBS cannot have ownership of more than individual lines they asked Dr. Okrand for. If there is any ownership to be had (outside of published lines), it would belong to Dr. Okrand who created the language on his own and used it to provide the requested film and television lines and to write a book (from which text and quotes would also be copyrighted). However, the question of even being able to own a constructed language is highly suspect, though it has never been fully tested in the courts. The problem is that if CBS decides to ask the courts to test the limits of what it owns with regard to the language versus what fans can use with the implied consent of Dr. Okrand, the fans are likely to be at a financial disadvantage for proper defense.<br class=""><br class="">Jeremy</div></div></div></div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">tlhIngan-Hol mailing list</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><a href="mailto:tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org</a><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><a href="http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org</a></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>