<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">{‘uD} is in KGT in both the K->E and E->K sides. {‘uD Haqtaj} is not. {‘uD’a’} is not.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The current version of the KLI’s online New Words List doesn’t include listings for KGT, so it doesn’t include {‘uD} but it includes both other entries.</div><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 2, 2020, at 9:56 AM, Steven Boozer <<a href="mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu" class="">sboozer@uchicago.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">That’s how I’ve always understood it. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I don’t necessarily think it’s an error, only that someone, sometime, somewhere thought it might have been – so I made a note of it. I don’t have KGT handy, so I don’t know whether {‘uD’a’} and {‘uD Haqtaj} were listed in KGT. As a rule I only note the source for the first appearance of words revealed after TKD, and these first appeared in the veS Qonos fan letter. Can someone check?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">--<br class="">Voragh<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>tlhIngan-Hol <<a href="mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org" class="">tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>De'vID<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, November 2, 2020 3:33 AM<br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 4pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 at 14:56, Steven Boozer <<a href="mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">sboozer@uchicago.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;" class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 4pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">Here's what I have in my notes:<br class=""><br class="">'uD laser (n) KGT<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">sic for {'uD'a'} - an error from the "official charghwI' list" at the KLI web site [source?]<o:p class=""></o:p></p></blockquote><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 4pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 4pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">Why do you think this is an error, as opposed to just the same noun with the suffix {-'a'}?<o:p class=""></o:p></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 4pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;" class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 4pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">'uD Haqtaj laser scalpel (n) (medical device) [HQ 1.3:9 < veS QonoS]<br class=""><br class="">'uD'a' laser (n) [HQ 1.3:9 < veS QonoS]<br class=""><br class="">If {'uD'a'} is the correct form, it begs the question: "What is {'uD}? Perhaps a beam of light? Or a smallish, low-power laser (suitable for surgical devices), with {'uD'a'} being the more powerful kind used in industry or as a weapon? <o:p class=""></o:p></p></blockquote><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 4pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 4pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">This is how I have understood the definitions, that {'uD} and {'uD'a'} both mean "laser", with the latter being a bigger, more powerful, or more important version of the former.<o:p class=""></o:p></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 4pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 4pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 4pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">De'vID<o:p class=""></o:p></p></div></div></div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">tlhIngan-Hol mailing list</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""><a href="mailto:tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org" class="">tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org</a></span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""><a href="http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org" class="">http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org</a></span></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>