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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/21/2020 11:24 AM, Will Martin
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<div class="">I’m making no claims about lip movement similarities
between the English meaning and {pIrmuS} and {bIS'ub}. I’m
saying the lip movements of the two Klingon words are similar to
each other, while the sound is remarkably different. Same vowels
in the same position in each of two syllables, {p} and {b} are
visually indistinguishable and the other differences are not
visually obvious.</div>
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<div class="">Two words with tightly related meaning that have
very similar lip movements, but very different sounds.</div>
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<p>The lip-movements of <b>pIr</b> and <b>bIS</b> are similar, but
the movements of <b>muS</b> and <b>'ub</b> are very different.<br>
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