<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">I completely agree with SuStel about “empress”. {voDleH be’} looks like “the emperor’s woman/the woman of the emperor”. {be’ voDleH} looks like “the woman’s emperor/the emperor of the woman”, like maybe women have a different emperor than men do? One is the “man’s emperor” and the other is the “woman’s emperor”?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Klingons don’t have a separate word for female warriors, yet there are obviously female warriors.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ditto for ambassadors, captains, or any other occupation/rank title.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If you want to stress that an emperor is female, you need to describe it in contextually linked statements. You can’t compress that into a single noun phrase in Klingon by any means I know.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Basically, if you’ve done whatever it takes to be emperor, your sexual gender is less important to people than your rank.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And if the gender of the emperor is really important to you, it becomes important for you to know the emperor very personally, because inappropriate comments or gestures could have undesirable consequences.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If we ever get a female president, she won’t be a *presidentress*. She’ll be a president. This is like that.</div><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 14, 2020, at 8:45 AM, SuStel <<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" class="">sustel@trimboli.name</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/14/2020 8:10 AM, mayqel qunen'oS
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">maj. De'vam vIyaj. 'a latlh vay''e' qaghel vIneH.</pre>
</blockquote><p class="">OFF-TOPIC: <i class="">It is another something, not something else, I
want to ask you.</i> Not only do you not want <b class="">-'e'</b> here,
but you don't need the <b class="">vay'</b> at all. <b class="">latlh qaghel vIneH</b><i class="">
I want to ask you another thing.</i><br class="">
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">"empress" jImugh vIneH. cha' DuH tu'lu': {be' voDleH} {voDleH be'} je,
'ej lughlaw' Hoch. 'a "empress" DamughnIS net jalchugh, nuq 'oH DuH'e'
DamaSbogh ? chay' bIwuq ?
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</blockquote><p class="">Barring new information, I favor translating <i class="">empress</i> as <b class="">ta'</b>
or <b class="">voDleH.</b> Alternatively, if these words are exclusively
masculine and feminine words exist, I think they would be
completely separate words that we haven't heard yet.</p>
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