<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Before a room becomes disheveled, is it sheveled? Is it heveled?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Before a conversation is disrupted, is it rupted?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Also, if a conversation can be interrupted, does that imply that it could be extrarupted? or intrarupted?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The word “tone” has the words “to”, “ton”, and “one” in it. Does that mean that “tone” was derived from some combination of these meanings?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Etymology requires history, and we rarely get a glimpse of the history of Klingon words.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My favorite false etymology was that “bit” came from the dragoon, also known as “pieces of eight” because it was a coin with eight crimps on it, like a pre-sliced pizza, so that it could be easily broken into halves, quarters, or eighths. An eight of a dragoon was known as a “bit” because it was 1/8 of a dragoon and you couldn’t break it down any smaller. Hence “Shave and a haircut, two bits” meaning that it cost a quarter (25¢), since a dragoon was also known as a dollar and two eighths is 1/4.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The computer word “bit” similarly describes something that is 1/8 of a byte; something that cannot be broken down any smaller…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">All that makes sense, but apparently “bit” is just something some guy made up with no reference to pieces of eight, dragoons or dollars, as a perversely arbitrary abbreviation of “Binary digIT”.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I REALLY WANT IT TO HAVE COME FROM PIECES OF EIGHT.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Unfortunately, more authoritative voices insist that the less interesting story wins.</div><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 4, 2020, at 8:10 PM, DloraH <<a href="mailto:seruq@bellsouth.net" class="">seruq@bellsouth.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Or it might be completely unrelated to any suffix.<br class=""><br class="">In English, adding -er gives us "someone or something which does the<br class="">verb it is attached to", very similar to the verb suffix -wI'.<br class=""><br class="">Shoot - shooter<br class="">Wash - washer<br class=""><br class="">Does a brother broth?<br class="">Does another anoth?<br class=""><br class="">The -wI' on words like computer and helmsman could just simply happen to<br class="">look like the suffix -wI'.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">- DloraH<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">tlhIngan-Hol mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org" class="">tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org</a><br class="">http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>