<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Everyone has been using the word “wish” to describe the verb suffix {-jaj}. My understanding has been that it’s more like a blessing than a wish. It’s one thing to wish someone success in battle. That’s subtly different from addressing the person who is about to go to battle and offer the blessing, “May you be successful in battle!”</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I can wish I had a sandwich.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">That’s not what I’d use {-jaj} for, though. “May it be that I get a sandwich!” Really?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Yes, you wish for the thing that you offer as a blessing, but offering a blessing is really different from generic wishing in an important way. It’s more like, “There’s an entity for which I want something, and I’d like to muster whatever small influence I have over Fate to improve the odds that this entity gets what I’m wishing for it."</div><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 30, 2020, at 12:34 PM, Lieven L. Litaer <<a href="mailto:levinius@gmx.de" class="">levinius@gmx.de</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Before SuStel explained what your sentence really means, I only saw it<br class="">as a wish, because that's what {-jaj} implies.<br class=""><br class="">So if it it just means that, you may use it:<br class=""><br class="">Kid: "I'm going to ask mom for a cookie."<br class="">{jIHvaD chab nob SoS 'e' vItlhobrup}<br class=""><br class="">Sister: "May your wish be granted".<br class="">{chab DaneHbogh Dunobjaj.}<br class="">= "Good luck! I hope it works."<br class=""><br class="">Any other usage than a wish is not suited for {-jaj}.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">--<br class="">Lieven L. Litaer<br class="">aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany"<br class=""><a href="http://www.tlhInganHol.com" class="">http://www.tlhInganHol.com</a><br class="">http://klingon.wiki/En/Hamletmachine<br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">tlhIngan-Hol mailing list<br class="">tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org<br class="">http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>