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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/18/2020 8:58 AM, mayqel qunen'oS
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">qaStaHvIS QIn tlheghvam, jIHvaD qay'pu' wa': chay' {quv
luHutlh'eghmoHpu' romuluSngan} mu'tlhegh yajnISlu'. 'op rep ret, vay'
Daj vIQubpu'. 'ej chaq jIHvaD mu'tlheghvam qay' QIjlaHchu' vay'vam.
pelaD.
HoH
kill</pre>
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<p>Yes.<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">HoH'egh
commit suicide
(kill oneself)</pre>
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<p>Yup.</p>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">jIHoH'eghmoH
I cause someone unspecified to commit suicide
(I cause someone unspecified to kill himself)</pre>
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<p>Ummm... maybe? It's all well to suggest that suffixes in a <b>-moH</b>
verb might apply to entities other than the ones they're supposed
to according to the rules of TKD, but in this word there's not
even a <i>hint</i> that there's someone else involved. I don't
think you can reliably say that this word means what you say it
means, let alone go on to base a linguistic formula on it.<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">luHoH'eghmoH
they cause him/her to commit suicide
(they cause him/her to kill himself/herself)</pre>
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<p>This, at least, has the benefit of actually referencing multiple
parties.<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">vaj..
quv luHutlh'eghmoHpu' romuluSngan
the romulans cause the honor to lack itself
chaq QIjlaw'ghachvam 'oH mu'tlhegh wa'DIch QIjchu'ghach'e'.
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<p>Eh. I'm not convinced. I'd rather reword than trust to this.
Instead of <b>quv luHutlh'eghmoHpu' romuluSngan,</b> I'd say <b>quvHa''eghmoHpu'
romuluSnganpu'</b><i> The Romulans dishonored themselves.</i><br>
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