<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">{vItlh} was apparently added to the vocabulary at the 2017 qepHom. The quote about painsticks precedes that by a few years. Likely, Okrand was giving us canon before the use of {law’} was restricted to countable objects, and this was one of those tweakings of the language that came later.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Then again, since Okrand tends to keep everything canon legal, that probably means that while best practice is to differentiate between {law’} and {vItlh}, you aren’t completely wrong if you screw up and use {law’}.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Tomayto/Tomahto...</div><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 10, 2020, at 10:09 AM, mayqel qunen'oS <<a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" class="">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="auto" class="">SuStel:</div><div dir="auto" class="">> It has never been used countably. I would</div><div dir="auto" class="">> go with De' lo'laH wISuqpu'. Kruge says</div><div dir="auto" class="">> De' yIlI', not De' tIlI'. De' lI' Sovlu'DI', not </div><div dir="auto" class="">> De' lI' luSovlu'DI'. Vixis says De' wIHevtaH, > not De' DIHevtaH.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">ok, thanks. I wasn't aware of these examples, which answer as well the next thing I was wondering, with regards to if we should write {De' law'} or {De' vItlh} for "many information". I guess {De' vItlh} would be the preferable choice, since {vItlh} "is used for things that are measurable or quantifiable, but not necessarily countable".</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Although, since we have the Ca'Non example of:</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">{chIch vay' 'oy'moHmeH 'oy'naQ 'ul law' tlhuD 'oH}</div><div dir="auto" class="">Painstiks ... emit a highly charged shock for the express purpose of</div><div dir="auto" class="">inflicting pain. S32</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">...</div><div dir="auto" class="">~ Qa'yIn</div></div>
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